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Just Float · Post by **Just Float** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:30 am

I have an electribe and I love it. My friend wants to get a sampler too but since we work together a lot, he wants to get a different kind. What are the best modules to make "experimental" sounds with?

By experimental I mean that we need lots of control over every aspect of the sound and a decent amount of built in effects. We've found lots of things that look nice, but it's hard to find out if the models we're looking at are the latest. For instance, is a Yamaha SU700 a good piece for this? It seems kind of old. What about the RS 7000?

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:51 am

SU700 is a very popular sampler for live use. They go for great prices these days for what you can get out of it.

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:01 am

Iv seen various mid - high end Emu's going for silly money on Ebay lately. Like £50-100 for £1000-2000+ worth of sampler.

If you need a hardware model then it appears now is the time to buy!

TB

Distorted_Mastermind · Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:24 am

I got an ASRX Pro for $300 not too long ago. That is a crapload of sampler for $300. It was stock, but I added the maximum memory which was like 10 bucks, and a 2 gb scsi jaz drive for another 30 with some disks. Can't go wrong with those...max sample time is something like 752 seconds, full sequencer, onboard effects (not the greatest, but the track filters sound pretty decent), and that classic hip hop sound.

Failed Muso · Post by **Failed Muso** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:09 am

For that truly grungy, lo-fi sound, you could always go for the SU-700's little brother, the SU-10. A VHS cassette sized sampler that can be mains or battery powered, it has built in filters and FX, looping and most importantly a ribbon controller that can be used for a "scratching" effect, crossfading between samples or used to open and close the filter. The real joy of this unit is that you can feed an audio signal into it and process it live, including the scratching !!

Look on eBay and you should be able to pick one up for no more than £50 !

It even has a rudimentary sequencer !

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Con ... CT,00.html

http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Da ... 10-01.html

http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/su10.shtml

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1996_ar ... asu10.html

http://www.synthmania.com/su10.htm

(the last link has a video demonstration !)

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:22 am

i have a Yamaha A3000 ... it has 3 effects blocks, all of which are accessable from the audio ins as well as to the samples ... plus about 10 filter types per samples
I paid £1500 for this when new, i've seen them go for about £150 recently ... all the A series are great samplers with lots of seperate outputs (they have a HDD too) ..

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:04 pm

Lovesign wrote:For that truly grungy, lo-fi sound, you could always go for the SU-700's little brother, the SU-10.

Yes I think there was another model in between the SU10 and the SU700 I just cant remember what the number was. There's also the Zoom Sampletrak which is sometimes really cheap in stores new.

Pseudo · Post by **Pseudo** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:31 pm

I once owned a SU700, but thought it was rubbish. I think the mid range yamaha was the SU200 though never tried it so don't know if it's any good.

Personally I would recommend an EMU Ultra sampler excellent filters and good modulation possibilities, plus you get that Beat Munging thingy which is good for loops.

As far as weird sample mashing in software goes I've been partial to Beatburner, however I've always preferred the standalone version than the VSTi version, for some reason it sound meatier and there appears to be an error in the tuning of the VSTi version as it's always a few cents out.

Good Samplers For Weird Music