KVR Audio

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:29 pm

stag wrote:I find extremelly annoying people jumping on threads with negativity and exploiting them to serve a which looks a personal agenda.

No hard feelings, eh?

but surely you would never do anything like that, would you?

stag · Post by **stag** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:35 pm

Kingston wrote:
stag wrote:I find extremelly annoying people jumping on threads with negativity and exploiting them to serve a which looks a personal agenda.
No hard feelings, eh?

but surely you would never do anything like that, would you?

Man, i mean what i said. what's the point of i telling someone the advantages or not of a software i barely use.
However i feel tempeted on a not so far future to use it, because i believe difficulties and experimentation are a good way of broaden horyzons and creativity... the process of learning and discovering can be quite rewarding.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:41 pm

For the exact same reason I want to teach myself traction GOOD, if not use it occasionally as well. I'm pretty sure it'll broaden my perspective a bit.

Milos · Post by **Milos** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:00 pm

Quote from www.osx86project.org
"WELL I succeeded running Logic Pro 7.0 on X86 intel PC .I used USB dongle which I run well on my Power MAC G5 , And I have Apple 's A 2/6 audio interface and it works well on x86
.
but Logic Pro 7.0 does not run well on X86 intel PC ,it still use Rosseta to run so it really slow."

Maybe we can expect Logic sequencer soon on pc again(running on osx86 operating platform)

bugs · Post by **bugs** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:06 pm

Do we love a program because it runs well or does it run well because we love it?

beej · Post by **beej** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:18 pm

Milos, don't forget that running OSX on a regular PC or other non-Apple hardware is illegal according to Apple's licensing agreements. Not saying it's not possible, just saying it's not 'right'...

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:47 pm

Kingston you need to calm down and get a sense of humor.

dudd wrote:skip the apple crap.
apple sucks.
why?

because i cant afford one.
and because they look gay.
and because if i could afford one, i wouldnt buy it, because all mac users seem to have an extremely gay attitude towards computers.

just my observation.

He put it in a very immature way but I know exactly what he means

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:01 pm

yeah, but that's because you're still 16.

Great minds think alike.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/03/03

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:21 pm

Kingston wrote:yeah, but that's because you're still 16.

Actually it's because im not an uptight poofter.

P.S. I'm 18

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:33 pm

I love you chase.

for being the little teen that you are. I mean, what's a poofter?

A winnie the poof afocionado?

Spotting idiots has nothing to do with uptightness. I'm sure dudd actually meant what he said, with no attempts at sarcasm. I mean look at it. It's teen-warezkid-speak.

As far as having *some* sense of humour, you saw my original reply.

kevink · Post by **kevink** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:30 pm

I was a Notator/Creator/Logic user on Atari and Mac for years, but had to cut over to using PCs for "day job" reasons, and with much regret abandoned Logic for Sonar when Apple announced that they were going to screw PC users. It's *not* the same - nothing else is - but I've gotten used to Sonar, and the hardware bang-for-the-buck and the greater diversity of plug-in offerings for PCs have long since made it worth my while.

Over on the NI forums, there was a benchmarking thread when Reaktor 4 came out where people were comparing relative load on different PC and Mac configurations, and it was just embarassing how hard a very expensive, high-end G5 Macs were only equivalent to pretty ordinary AMD-based PCs of the period.

superddman · Post by **superddman** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:00 pm

the point of my thread was to see if I will gain much performance from a G5 compared to my current performnace. I hate running out of system resources and needing to bounce things. I want to stay all MIDI. Could someone point me to the mentioned perfomrance tests?

beej · Post by **beej** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:14 pm

There's a load on OSX Audio but that's down at the moment. There's also a load on the Apple Logic forum, with sample songs.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... &tstart=15

There's also at least one website dedicated to performance tests using 'standard' song files. I'm sure a Google will turn that up, I forget what it is for now.

There was also SoundOnSound's Logic performance tests and realted articles that you should be able to access from their site. This uses the EXS24 and Platinumverb tests that you can directly run on both platforms.

A dual-G5 will give you much more performance than you state, and don't forget you can freeze tracks as well, which makes up for a lot (I can really get the equivalent of 10 or so Powerbooks on mine by freezing...)

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:28 pm

kevink wrote: Over on the NI forums, there was a benchmarking thread when Reaktor 4 came out where people were comparing relative load on different PC and Mac configurations, and it was just embarassing how hard a very expensive, high-end G5 Macs were only equivalent to pretty ordinary AMD-based PCs of the period.

That would be true in any sequencer that wasn't logic, but I doubt that the G5's performed badly compared to AMD's when Reactor was loaded into Logic. Also Reactor has really only become stable on mac as of later versions of 4, and 5. I get serious use out of Reactor on a dual gig g4, old ass tech, but Logic makes decent use of both CPU's.

kenn michael · Post by **kenn michael** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:38 pm

Milos wrote:Quote from www.osx86project.org
"WELL I succeeded running Logic Pro 7.0 on X86 intel PC .I used USB dongle which I run well on my Power MAC G5 , And I have Apple 's A 2/6 audio interface and it works well on x86
.
but Logic Pro 7.0 does not run well on X86 intel PC ,it still use Rosseta to run so it really slow."

Maybe we can expect Logic sequencer soon on pc again(running on osx86 operating platform)

Nope, but Logic Pro 7.2 running OSX for Intel on an Intel PC will work perfectly....

Love Logic but love PC