what does a DAW for $2500?

[Improv]

Any links to these incredible skins?

I ask because the shades here:

http://www.sawstudio.com/SAWStudioShades.htm

look like horrible, like a bad psychadelic nightmare! Yuck!

Go to their forum and do a search--that's what I would have to do. If you want to be spoon-fed, bring your own Gerbers.

You were the one that brought up the 'incredible skins'. If you don't want people to think that the 'shades' on the link above are the only ones available, then provide a link and prove your point. Don't make unfounded assertions and then expect others to prove your point.

It's really NOT up to us to search out these 'incredible skins' if they do indeed exist. Unless you can prove that these skins are available people have every right to think that the skins at:

http://www.sawstudio.com/SAWStudioShades.htm

are fully representative of the best 'shades' available.

Here's a little test for you:

1. Your arse.
2. A hole in the ground.
3. Now, tell me, which is which?

Ah yes, insults, the last refuge of mentally challenged.

How clever-how intelligent. And yet, as expected, you are still incapable of answering with an answer that backs up your 'incredible gui' remark. It would seem that these guis don't exist. LOL!!!

You're just upset because not everyone shares your rabid fanboyism for a piece of software. Get over it already and stop throwing your temper tantrums!


If you post in a 'public' forum, expect to get questioned on your statements validity.

One mute button set to ON!

[woc53]

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[woc53]

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[herodotus]

Threads like this are ruining kvr.

I am not kidding.

[deaf dunderkwac]

this is fun(nee)
simple answer to the actual thread question.
Saw is a broadcast/recording/music production console/recording environment that is (almost) bulletproof in it's operation, as it has to be for broadcast. Originally adopted by the radio industry as an inexpensive substitute for the then current crop of expensive, tempermental 'workstations'(including pt) it has grown into a highly reliable production software that can use most anyone's external hardware. Well worth the cost if you need (almost) fail-proof performance.

I believe it can host VSTs according to some of the blurbs I've read on KVR news but I can be wrong (or is it , I shall be wrong)

Inexpensive for what it does and how it's supported.

useable for the 'home' studio... depends.

[SonicBreeze]

this is fun(nee)
simple answer to the actual thread question.
Saw is a broadcast/recording/music production console/recording environment that is (almost) bulletproof in it's operation, as it has to be for broadcast. Originally adopted by the radio industry as an inexpensive substitute for the then current crop of expensive, tempermental 'workstations'(including pt) it has grown into a highly reliable production software that can use most anyone's external hardware. Well worth the cost if you need (almost) fail-proof performance.

I believe it can host VSTs according to some of the blurbs I've read on KVR news but I can be wrong (or is it , I shall be wrong)

Inexpensive for what it does and how it's supported.

useable for the 'home' studio... depends.

Neat!

[No name]

I noticed that too, that threads like these do ruin this community. when I came here a year ago, shit was much better. Far less arguements, people were helping eachother out, not getting on them or questioning their "professionalism" and what not. I came here and on my first post asked which synth would be good to learn on ,and though i'm positive it had been asked an infinite number of times before, nobody said anything foolish or tried to get on me about it. They pointed me towards all the synths I could use, even debating which one would be better for my circumstances. Now you look at these threads. People being total smart asses for no apparent reason, big egos over a forum, people arguing non-stop.

[ninjadroid]

Ultimately, who cares? Is saw the *secret* to making good music? If so, whence all the competition? In a free market, if there are umpteen different competiting entities in a given business, take that as an indicator that if there is One True Way to do it, nobody has found it yet.

You see similar kinds of debates all the time in all kinds of communities. I see this stuff every day in the gun community. What does my $1,500 dollar Wilson Combat 1911 have that my $500 Glock 19 doesn't? Well, there is a difference, but the salient point is that they all shoot bullets. It's not like one of them shoots flowers, and the other opens up a vortex to another dimension which will swallow your enemies whole. Two in the chest and one in the head tend to produce the same result, regardless of the handgun used.

Likewise, there's no point in getting all worked up over the merits of really expensive program X, vis-a-vis not so expensive program Y. Understand that value tends to grow logarithmically, but price exponentially, and unless you're interested in economics, don't worry about this. While it is absolutely true that your gear matters, and it is certainly important to buy quality stuff, the critical features tend to get covered quite early on in the price continuum. Put another way, the potatoes are cheap and important, whereas the gravy is expensive and disposable.

The tone of the initial post seemed to ring of mockery directed against SAW. And much of the defenses have a supercilious air to them. We'd be better off without either property.

[androidlove]

it's weird that sumpin so special isn't for the mac

i'm ruining kvr

[crimsonwarlock]

My guess is (and I'll wear my ignorance on my sleeve here) that the cheap version is to get smaller shops to take a peek, not to win over the mass consumer audio market.

Yep, that is my perception as well

[Bill OC]

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[keyman_sam]

So, in a nutshell, the reason SAW is so popular mong its users is cos its a solid piece of software, like reason, but does everything a normal DAW does(thus resulting in it being expensive). Am i right?

[Reverse Engineer]

Pyramix goes right up to $20,000+...now that's expensive

[keyman_sam]

[BASSDRIVE]

WOW, SAW Studio looks like total cr@p. I wouldn't be able to stand working in a environment like that! Looks childish. And I thought Arturia Storm looked bad.