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slh · Post by **slh** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:45 pm

Hi.

Anyone used Clone Ensemble before? It has some handy features but seems to leave a rattle type artifact (and its doesn't seem to be the levels).

Anybody know what's going on here?

cheers

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:45 pm

clipping?....it does color the sound a little, but not clicking...

TrevorMag · Post by **TrevorMag** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:13 pm

slh wrote:Hi.
Anyone used Clone Ensemble before? It has some handy features but seems to leave a rattle type artifact (and its doesn't seem to be the levels).
Anybody know what's going on here?
cheers

A couple of possibilities:

The Sex Machine feature can glitch with some voices, though not generally with "straight" singing. (Settle down, class...)
Hard (G/D/B) and aspirated (K/T/P) consonants don't always smear out nicely. It depends on the actual voice and settings, but in the most extreme cases you can substitute a nasal sound (Ng/B/M) and get realistic results.

Email me a shortish MP3, along with the settings you were using. My address is on the "Contact us" page of my website, link below.

ciao,
Trevor Magnusson

riley4reason · Post by **riley4reason** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:21 pm

How's that for support?!
Riley

CLone Ensemble is cool,,mmmmmmkaaay.

slh · Post by **slh** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:39 am

Email me a shortish MP3, along with the settings you were using. My address is on the "Contact us" page of my website, link below.

ciao,
Trevor Magnusson

Will do - thanks for getting back to me on this. As I said, I like the effect but I just have to iron out th is situation.

cheers

slh · Post by **slh** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:03 pm

Trev, the developer of CE, has spent some time setting me straight on this and has demonstrated the effect working beautifully - under certain conditions. Thanks Trev.

It is a very good effect and you should give it a go. Just be aware that it works great under certain conditions and not so great (to my ears anyway) under others - you just have to experiment with it.

cheers

TrevorMag · Post by **TrevorMag** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:31 pm

slh wrote:It is a very good effect and you should give it a go. Just be aware that it works great under certain conditions and not so great (to my ears anyway) under others - you just have to experiment with it.

For the curious, slh's vocal track was in a style reminiscent of early Rush - highly dynamic in pitch, volume and timbre. The octave transposed clones (bass and alto) had some problems keeping up. This was most noticeable if a bass or alto clone was soloed - unevenness, glitches. Larger numbers of clones would "camoflage" this, but not eliminate it entirely.

slh · Post by **slh** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:09 pm

I just tried this as a guitar effect - excellent!!!

brewt · Post by **brewt** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:51 pm

CloneEnsemble - can't keep house without it.

http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/

I have noticed that different overtones in the result get re-emphasized differently with different tuning systems. Something about the raw electro-physics-math involved. Might be coupled with my lousy taste in reverbs. Not a bad thing, but I haven't had time to analyze it hard enough to predict/control it yet.

-bjc

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