1.4 beta and development thread

[ohm]

In case you have been wondering about the lack of LiveSlice updates, I'm back working on 1.4 after spending a lot of time with Tablets and Touchpads. Additionally I've been switching to a better development environment, and converting projects / fiddling with changes to the compiler and libraries. It will help in the long run, making debugging easier for instance.

I have undo working pretty good, but need to sort out some bugs. Next step will be shortcut keys.

I could use a hand creating a list of actions that should have shortcut keys (I'm thinking I should use CTRL as a modifier for the querty keys to avoid interfering with peoples trollo setup, then on the other hand it's annoying to have to hit two keys)

I'll keep you posted in this thread, and send out a beta as soon as it makes sense.

edit: Here's a draft for a list of shortcut keys

• CTRL+Z: undo
• CTRL+XCV: cut copy and paste
• CTRL+arrow keys: change envelope values
• CTRL+arrow keys: move events
• SHIFT + arrow keys: select range of events
• CTRL+S: auto slice
• CTRL+R: record, CTRL+M: monitor

[Maniah]

Right off the bat....shortcuts for the recording options. Or are they there already?????

[kejkz]

I like all your suggestions for shortcut keys. how about even more:

ctrl+1,2,3... set number of slices in slicer
alt+1,2,3.. set output channel on selected slice
+ - zoom in out (or better ctrl+- to avoid problem with cubase)...

[R.A.W.]

ctrl+1,2,3... set number of slices in slicer
alt+1,2,3.. set output channel on selected slice
+ - zoom in out (or better ctrl+- to avoid problem with cubase)...

i like the ideas.. and want to take it a step further

how about making the ctrl+1,2.. time dependent: for instance when pressing numbers fast (like <0,5 secs) they get added, so pressing 8 twice while holding ctrl would result in 16 slices.
just an idea

[custardweasel]

Hi There,
there are a few of features I'd love to see in live slice and I'm wondering if they're on the cards.

1-Slice Selection from arrange.
when clicking on a slice in the arrange window some way to select the relevant slice in the top window so you can assign outputs.
I like making up patterns quickly to start with but it'd be cool to be able to easily select a slice and the route it to an output once it's already in an arrangement.

2-Arrangement copying.
being able to duplicate and arrangement so you can make variations of the same pattern, I guess drag and drop or copy/paste.

3-Seperate toggle/manual states from each arrangement.
This'd be rad for jamming loops freestyle as well as being able to switch your backbone grooves on and off and trigger song sections and stuff.

I'm loving the plugin so far, I've been getting SOOO bored of std programming, I use Logic, Live, Acid, Fruity plus heaps of outboard and stuff and this thing is my favorite toy right now.
thanks.
Dylan

[R.A.W.]

1-Slice Selection from arrange.
when clicking on a slice in the arrange window some way to select the relevant slice in the top window so you can assign outputs.

afair ohm already planned output selection on event-level so there'd be no need for that as you assign outputs in the arranger and not the slicer then (this won't be in 1.4 regarding the planned feature list on the livelab site).

2-Arrangement copying.
being able to duplicate and arrangement so you can make variations of the same pattern, I guess drag and drop or copy/paste.

Arrangement thumbnails
The arrangements are shown as little thumbnails at the bottom of the screen. Left click to select an arrangement. Right click another arrangement to copy the current arrangement there (you can hold down CTRL to swap the two arrangments).

[custardweasel]

afair ohm already planned output selection on event-level so there'd be no need for that as you assign outputs in the arranger and not the slicer then

cool! that's make a big difference to how I can process stuff.

Arrangement thumbnails
The arrangements are shown as little thumbnails at the bottom of the screen. Left click to select an arrangement. Right click another arrangement to copy the current arrangement there (you can hold down CTRL to swap the two arrangments).

that's excellent, except the first thing I did was copied one pattern over another I hadn't saved! heh. never mind.

[ohm]

custardweasel: you'll appreciate the multilevel undo available in the next update

separate toggle / manual state for each arrangement is a very good idea, thanks. I'll need to have separate assignments for each arrangement anyways to facilitate midi learn when I get to that.

[R.A.W.]

FR

as i told in another thread i'm working on a track and i used one arrangement for individual triggering for the first time.. and now i got a FR:

it'd be cool if the midi-triggered events get highlighted as well in the arranger view one uses for indiv. triggering just like it's done in "normal" arrangements.

[soma]

I know this is from left field but I'd like to see portamento, glide for CC's, a better visual feed back of pitch selected (perhaps also a way to set pitch from midi), and some basic time-stretching.
Also some features for grouping slices on seperate tracks, locking individual slices (and/or parameters of step) before requenceing or swaping, speeding up replacing/merging slices with individual samples or slices from another file, etc.

[ohm]

numerical feedback when changing pitch (and other parameters) is already implemented. Timestretching is definately not too far away, but will not make it to the next beta. Rx2 support has a higher priority.
You can already set the pitch via midi using the midi mapper in settings (it's an "event" parameter type).

locking slices will be very useful and pretty simple to implement. I'll re-evaluate it's priority for ya I hope I'll have copying of slices between tracks ready for the next release.
As for handing individual hit samples in a smoother way, that's a bit lower priority, unless you will be satisfied with dragging loops to tracks / slices from the loops list.

some questions:
what do you mean by portamento and glide for CC's ?
what should the group of slices do?

[slasi]

Hi Ohm,

Not sure if you saw my other thread with a couple of feature requests. But just in case, here they are again. I think LiveSlice is great and is going to be the next VST I buy. I think these features would make it even more useful (at least for me ).

1) A slide arranger mode. Basically the events would retain their original slice lengths from the loop. Inserting an event would push the events on the right rightward by the length of the newly inserted event. Removing an event would cause all the events to the right to shift leftward to occupy the now empty space of the deleted event. Kind of like arranging a stack of books on a shelf with no empty space between them. This would allow you to chnage the arrangement of a loop easily, yet retain the original slice length and groove.

2) An option to have the auto slice points of the original loop as one of the grid options in the snap menu. This would allow you to retain the groove of the original loop, while changing the hits (possibly even from another loop).

Thanks
Shehryar

[ohm]

Not sure if you saw my other thread with a couple of feature requests. But just in case, here they are again. I think LiveSlice is great and is going to be the next VST I buy. I think these features would make it even more useful (at least for me ).

missed that post, somehow I can't get kvraudio to notify me when a new topic is created...

1) A slide arranger mode. Basically the events would retain their original slice lengths from the loop. Inserting an event would push the events on the right rightward by the length of the newly inserted event. Removing an event would cause all the events to the right to shift leftward to occupy the now empty space of the deleted event. Kind of like arranging a stack of books on a shelf with no empty space between them. This would allow you to chnage the arrangement of a loop easily, yet retain the original slice length and groove.

I see, like how randomize works when you set it in "reseq" mode - seems useful indeed. added to list.

2) An option to have the auto slice points of the original loop as one of the grid options in the snap menu. This would allow you to retain the groove of the original loop, while changing the hits (possibly even from another loop).

I had something similar in mind: using the event positions of other tracks as snap points - but the slice points of the current loop could be useful too - now I'll have to do both.

[scuzzphut]

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a truly great nick, there cw

[spuddle]

Ohm,

I've been playing a lot with Liveslice, it's surely a great performance tool, trying to tame the beast when it comes to 'sequencing' it via MIDI triggering, sometimes it can get a bit chaotic trying to execute things at the right moment but then thats more due to my own inexperience!

Here is my FR:

When moving sample folders, if a composition using Liveslice has a sample used that got moved and you try to open this song, you now only get a blank, empty slot. Is it possible to have the name (and old path) of the sample used still listed in the slot but highlighted as missing. Even better would be a little prompt that asks you for the new location and/or if you wish to search/replace the sample, a bit like Reason does.

As it currently stands I have a few compositions that are now defunct because I can't remember which specific sample was used for which slot. Save us from our mistakes!