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Tony Ostinato · Post by **Tony Ostinato** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:45 pm

trumpet is the one thatll wreck your lips (chops) if you practice too much. sax isnt nearly as bad.

DotNoir · Post by **DotNoir** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:13 pm

egbert wrote:
DotNoir wrote:W00t?!?!?! This is teh internets, people who use teh internets do not have lives.
Your grasp of the definite article leaves something to be desired, eh what?

I am sorry, I was trying to be "leet internet nerd" (well, which I am a bit - the leet") most of my friends make typos on "the" all the time. So it is a kind of a joke?

DotNoir · Post by **DotNoir** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:32 pm

On a side note, I used more Miles'tone on one of my tracks...
http://koti.mbnet.fi/tritonus/DotNoir/D ... _ver.2.mp3 (link to the Music Cafe thread)

rick_jelliffe · Post by **rick_jelliffe** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:20 am

ZioKiller wrote: Don't worry, I haven't forgot you. I'm working hard on the sax simulation, and having a real sax with me is indeed a good help.

Amazing:-o And welcome to the sax-players club

(I used to play a Yamaha wind controller too...)

A few random comments:

* Joe Zawinul of weather report used to add a small very slow (1 cycle per 10 seconds?) LFO to the oscillator which gave a much more wind-like sound. In real saxes, there is always a continual pitch adjustment based on knowing the instrument, on getting more perfect tuning with the melody line, and one expression: not just slurs.

* The lowest 4-5 notes end up with quite a different sound. Of course, the trouble with providing this is that people will not stick to the range, and you have to figure out what to do outside that range. (I tend to think that a simulator can just not play any notes outside the range. That guides users more.)

* Good quality saxes, or even crappy saxes with a good mouthpiece, are are all very different tonally. My tenor, for example, has a "front f" key, which gives an amazing (well, to me anyway

) co anglais or oboe like tone. Just when the front-F key is used.

* Of course, the alternative fingerings give different cutoffs and tones, but I tend to think that mouth shape is more important for charactistic tones: I tend to use an "Aw" or "Or" shape or a German "U umlaut" shape.

Cheers
Rick

Tony Ostinato · Post by **Tony Ostinato** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:26 am

Indeed, the player is as much the instrument as the hardware.

size of lungs and throat and mouth etc etc etc makes a big difference.

and then theres technique.

I mentioned alternate fingerings earlier in the thread, itd be cool to have a cc assignment that would just trigger valve/key noise, and maybe alter tone and pitch and airflow subtly.

jobromedia · Post by **jobromedia** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:18 am

I expected him to get a sax, didn't I? It is only the natural step to get the sax plugin so authentic as possible.

spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:27 pm

*aches for some hawt sax lovin'*

Don't disappear Guido!

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:41 pm

Just gave this plug a quick spin yesterday - THIS THING RUUUUUULES! Man, this is so cool, who wants samples if you can have Miles Tone? Thanks a million, Guido!

Ben H · Post by **Ben H** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:54 pm

Rumour has it that he sold his soul to Yamaha, and is now working on a polyphonic VSTi version of their vl70m.

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:02 pm

ben_horwood wrote:Rumour has it that he sold his soul to Yamaha, and is now working on a polyphonic VSTi version of their vl70m.

:drool:

Tony Ostinato · Post by **Tony Ostinato** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:25 am

"Rumour has it that he sold his soul to Yamaha, and is now working on a polyphonic VSTi version of their vl70m."

if only that were true.

SFA · Post by **SFA** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:31 am

"if only that were true."

Do you know something we don't? Come on man, give us the skinny!

DaveSmom · Post by **DaveSmom** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:33 am

If Arturia had any brains, they'd subcontract 'im to fix their dud sax

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:50 am

On a serious note: did anybody hear anything about Guido?
I mean, his last KVR post was his last post in this thread, quite a while ago.
It might as well be that something happened to him.
Hopefully it's just vacations or so (early spring is simply beautiful in italy).

SFA · Post by **SFA** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:00 am

Wild speculation time. Kidnapped by terrorists? Amnesia? Joined the circus?

Miles'tone VST trumpet - Official Release