will this thing be sold WITHOUT the controller?
that's really the main thing I want to know.
Kore Price is released at AmericanMusical.com
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- KVRAF
- 4687 posts since 6 Jan, 2003
im not excited yet either. 
the controler seems limited compared to many others and i still dont understand what the kore software provides that i dont already get from my hosts except a potentially quick way to browse presets by category (only after i go through the huge trouble of categorizing every preset on my system) and a way to save/load layered presets.
what am i missing here?
im a fan of NI's stuff but im just not seeing whats in this for me yet.
-ugo
the controler seems limited compared to many others and i still dont understand what the kore software provides that i dont already get from my hosts except a potentially quick way to browse presets by category (only after i go through the huge trouble of categorizing every preset on my system) and a way to save/load layered presets.
what am i missing here?
im a fan of NI's stuff but im just not seeing whats in this for me yet.
-ugo
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- KVRian
- 1184 posts since 27 Apr, 2004 from Houston, Texas
I think it's going to be great.
It going to be like Chainer on steroids.
It's not a sequencing app.... it's a performance tool.
I just wouldn't want to be forced to have to buy the controller.
It going to be like Chainer on steroids.
It's not a sequencing app.... it's a performance tool.
I just wouldn't want to be forced to have to buy the controller.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
Well, it was 5 chapters to have to sort through, easy to miss since it's only mentioned in one sentence halfway through Chapter 4. But, for others who may have missed:ew wrote:There's 14 of them, and you must have scanned through too quickly...
Each channel also offers four insert effect slots into which KORE's integrated software effects can be loaded - 14 in total including chorus, reverbs, flanger, phaser, compressor, EQ, filters and delay.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 16 Jun, 2004
At first I thought, another controller? Or another chainer?
But now I think it's more than that. This is probably more like Reason's Combinator, but now you're not restricted to Reason's devices. Like Combinator, I believe you can create intricate routing and layering, and map all your devices to one single knob.
Does that sound right?
But now I think it's more than that. This is probably more like Reason's Combinator, but now you're not restricted to Reason's devices. Like Combinator, I believe you can create intricate routing and layering, and map all your devices to one single knob.
Does that sound right?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1942 posts since 29 Aug, 2003 from Austin, TX
It's by the mixer picture:
KORE has two for the most part identical mixers, the KoreSound Mixer and the Performance Mixer. The latter of the two is of interest to us at this point. For instance, the volume, panning and routing for each individual performance channel can be adjusted via the Performance Mixer.
Each channel also offers four insert effect slots into which KORE's integrated software effects can be loaded - 14 in total including chorus, reverbs, flanger, phaser, compressor, EQ, filters and delay.
More complex effect routing is of course possible: Add four send effects and unlimited groups to each channel, and each of these can contain a KoreSound effect (including your Audio Unit or VST effects) and up to four insert effects.
KORE has two for the most part identical mixers, the KoreSound Mixer and the Performance Mixer. The latter of the two is of interest to us at this point. For instance, the volume, panning and routing for each individual performance channel can be adjusted via the Performance Mixer.
Each channel also offers four insert effect slots into which KORE's integrated software effects can be loaded - 14 in total including chorus, reverbs, flanger, phaser, compressor, EQ, filters and delay.
More complex effect routing is of course possible: Add four send effects and unlimited groups to each channel, and each of these can contain a KoreSound effect (including your Audio Unit or VST effects) and up to four insert effects.
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- KVRAF
- 20910 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Will Kore come with all the extra NI libraries, such as the optional FM7 presets or the Synthetic Drums sample libraries? If so, it will be an incredible deal. If not, I personally would rather see it selling for something like $199 w/o controller & $299 w/.
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- KVRAF
- 4229 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Right here, in front of my computer...
I don't really get it, I can do the majority of what it does already in Logic.
Sure, it would save organising sounds into genres (I don't have any NI stuff anyway) but I can already organise what I need manually. I can also use Logic's channel strips to save combinations of instrument and plugin settings. I can create splits/layers and any MIDI stuff using the environment.
The only thing I can see it doing better is saving layers of different instruments as one patch, but that's no a big deal for me because I don't generally use synths like that and only have limited processing power.
So unless I'm missing something vital, it's of really no interest to me - the controller looks nicely designed though...
Sure, it would save organising sounds into genres (I don't have any NI stuff anyway) but I can already organise what I need manually. I can also use Logic's channel strips to save combinations of instrument and plugin settings. I can create splits/layers and any MIDI stuff using the environment.
The only thing I can see it doing better is saving layers of different instruments as one patch, but that's no a big deal for me because I don't generally use synths like that and only have limited processing power.
So unless I'm missing something vital, it's of really no interest to me - the controller looks nicely designed though...
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- KVRAF
- 8703 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
first.. that thought crossed my mind as well, but you can't move setups between different sequencers or platformsbeej wrote:I don't really get it, I can do the majority of what it does already in Logic.
Sure, it would save organising sounds into genres (I don't have any NI stuff anyway) but I can already organise what I need manually. I can also use Logic's channel strips to save combinations of instrument and plugin settings. I can create splits/layers and any MIDI stuff using the environment.
that's what makes it so great for studios/producers blahblah
and that's the second one.. the high definition rotary controllers are pretty cool.. that 127 step midi shit is driving me crazy sometimes.The only thing I can see it doing better is saving layers of different instruments as one patch, but that's no a big deal for me because I don't generally use synths like that and only have limited processing power.
So unless I'm missing something vital, it's of really no interest to me - the controller looks nicely designed though...
The controller looks extremely versatile as well and the mapping is very powerful
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRAF
- 20910 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
How does it allow you to move between studios? Won't you have to install it & all your NI software on to any studio computer you go to, anyway?spaceman wrote:that thought crossed my mind as well, but you can't move setups between different sequencers or platforms
that's what makes it so great for studios/producers blahblah
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- KVRAF
- 4229 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Right here, in front of my computer...
Yeah, I can't really see migration as that good a 'feature'. You have to install all the software and copy all your settings over anyway - and I can do that just as easily with a non-Kore Logic setup...
I think maybe the real test, when it finally arrives, it not so much *what* it does, but *how* it does it. There might be a bunch of really elegant design in here that redefines how organisation is generally handled. We'll see...
I think maybe the real test, when it finally arrives, it not so much *what* it does, but *how* it does it. There might be a bunch of really elegant design in here that redefines how organisation is generally handled. We'll see...
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- KVRAF
- 9220 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
Their wording is fairly awkward there- it's implied that you can only load Kore effects into your channel inserts. Thankfully this isn't the case; any VST effects plugin (or AU plugin for you heathen Mac usersriley4reason wrote:Each channel also offers four insert effect slots into which KORE's integrated software effects can be loaded - 14 in total including chorus, reverbs, flanger, phaser, compressor, EQ, filters and delay.
More complex effect routing is of course possible: Add four send effects and unlimited groups to each channel, and each of these can contain a KoreSound effect (including your Audio Unit or VST effects) and up to four insert effects.
) can be loaded in any effects slot 
No it won't- at least as far as I know.Uncle E wrote:Will Kore come with all the extra NI libraries, such as the optional FM7 presets or the Synthetic Drums sample libraries? If so, it will be an incredible deal. If not, I personally would rather see it selling for something like $199 w/o controller & $299 w/.
ew
A spectral heretic...
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- KVRer
- 24 posts since 24 Feb, 2006
I think this thread illustrates a big problem for NI, namely that they have been absolutely HORRIBLE at explaining what KORE actually is.
That said, the reason I'm down for it is that it puts all of your instruments into a standardized UI. That may not be a big deal to some, but as a dj/performer it's a life saver. It also looks to make workflow a cinch.
/offcitingobvious
That said, the reason I'm down for it is that it puts all of your instruments into a standardized UI. That may not be a big deal to some, but as a dj/performer it's a life saver. It also looks to make workflow a cinch.
/offcitingobvious