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tq wrote:
One thing about Kore which gives me a headache: Obviously, it seems to be a 'second layer' between the plug in and your sequencer/host (if you don't use it as a standalone).
Yup. Just like Chainer, energyXT, FL, VST-DX wrappers, Console, Brainspawn Forte et.c
Wouldn't this be highly likely to produce more problems with compatibility and stability,
Not necessarily.
and wouldn't it introduce more latency, higher processor stress etc.?
Nope.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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Uncle E wrote:
spaceman wrote:that thought crossed my mind as well, but you can't move setups between different sequencers or platforms
that's what makes it so great for studios/producers blahblah
How does it allow you to move between studios? Won't you have to install it & all your NI software on to any studio computer you go to, anyway?
well of course, it's not witchcraft

but as their documentation explains, if you've just created a sound using 2 synths, 4 effect plugins and numerous cc bindings etc. on one of your machines and you want to recreate it on an other, you'd have to set up the whole thing again step by step, setting by setting. Kore simply saves a whole setup as a patch which you then load on the other machine.
My other host is Bruce Forsyth

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tq wrote:
edoosx wrote:if it's an organizer... well... i don't need it.
if it's a controller... i bought my behringer bcr2000 for 129 eur, it works perfectly.
i still didn't understand what is kore...!
Well, if you own tons of NI stuff, it might be very helpful. I have huge problems to find the right sounds with all these Komplete instruments... Regarding the controller: Seems to be an integrated, 'intelligent' system with no need of manual mapping and the respective knobs laid out in the same fashion for all instruments. Could be a real time saver, and if you play live, it might be very helpful (no need to check every sound and its mapping before going on stage...).

However, I have the feeling that the Novation Remote SL is a better deal, with its Automapping and many more controller options, like faders, and XY pad and so on. From what I have heard, it is superb. It's still missing the organizer function, though. (But I wouldn't pay 400-500 bucks for just that little bit convenience...)
I bought a remote 25 this weekend and took it right back, it was a real piece of crap, some of the keys didn't work and one of the key weights fell right off in the box. I'm waiting for someone else to come up with auto mapping.

Just FYI
Riley

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riley4reason wrote: I bought a remote 25 this weekend and took it right back, it was a real piece of crap, some of the keys didn't work and one of the key weights fell right off in the box. I'm waiting for someone else to come up with auto mapping.
y
That's strange. I had a Remote 25 for about two years, and it felt great. Keys were perfect. Well, there's always a lemon in a production.

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Hmmm, I read about a few faulty units over on the ableton live boards as well - non-functioning pads & keys & other related problems, I was under the impression novation were highly regarded for build quality?
Thing is one of the guys there was referred by novation to a local 'specialist' who he had to take/mail the unit to for repairs - he'd only had it a day or so!!!! One would think an immediate, well tested replacement would be the order of the day in a case such as that.

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tq wrote:
That's strange. I had a Remote 25 for about two years, and it felt great. Keys were perfect. Well, there's always a lemon in a production.
likewise. ive got a 25 and a 61. both A1
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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tq wrote:
riley4reason wrote: I bought a remote 25 this weekend and took it right back, it was a real piece of crap, some of the keys didn't work and one of the key weights fell right off in the box. I'm waiting for someone else to come up with auto mapping.
y
That's strange. I had a Remote 25 for about two years, and it felt great. Keys were perfect. Well, there's always a lemon in a production.
That was my first experience with a Novation product. Maybe I'll give em another try when I need a new controller.
Riley

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I used to have a remote 25 and was very happy with it

I recently bought a 25le for travelling and it's very nice as well. The touchpad is a bit 'stiff' at the moment but I'm sure that will losen up with use
My other host is Bruce Forsyth

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whyterabbyt wrote:Yup. Just like Chainer, energyXT, FL, VST-DX wrappers, Console, Brainspawn Forte et.c
I was waiting for someone to make a comparison with Energy XT. So why is Kore better than Energy XT mated with a BCR2000?

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riley4reason wrote:I bought a remote 25 this weekend and took it right back, it was a real piece of crap, some of the keys didn't work and one of the key weights fell right off in the box. I'm waiting for someone else to come up with auto mapping.
Early Remotes were packaged very poorly, I saw about 1/3 of the ones we got damaged during shipping. However, there were never any problems with ones that weren't damaged during shipping & the latest Remotes have been double-boxed.

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my remote 49's keys feel great.

I sold my Korg Kontrol 49 for it.


key action blows away korg IMO

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Wonder how sonic bytes phrazor will compare to kore, in terms of functionality, as the price really doesn't.... well, Kompare?
Last edited by diverdee on Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Phrazor does look similar - ish. Kannot really say as I have not had the chance to demo them both. As they both host VST's, KORE for instance Kould host Phrazor anyway...best of both worlds! :hihi:

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Uncle E wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:Yup. Just like Chainer, energyXT, FL, VST-DX wrappers, Console, Brainspawn Forte et.c
I was waiting for someone to make a comparison with Energy XT. So why is Kore better than Energy XT mated with a BCR2000?
Well, for one, it would work for Mac users.

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ugo wrote:im not excited yet either. :shrug:

the controler seems limited compared to many others
the knobs on the KORE controller have 500 steps per revolution thus delivering an incredibly high resolution. The protocol is not restricted to the customary 127 steps MIDI resolution but allows the high resolution parameter values to be communicated directly between hardware and software via USB 2.0.


---ain't that cool?

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