The Sounds Section (sample section) is now - Closed

[Spe3D]

I have been on the brink of doing this for a while - today I have decided it would be a good idea. sorry guys

http://the-auditorium.net/viewtopic.php?t=4107

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)

[Canned Heat]

I never was there but downloaded some very nice samples from spe3d.com. Is that closed too?

[Sascha Franck]

Sad news. But certainly understandable. Perfectly.
Just as with any such things, people log in, grab the stuff and don't even think about saying "thank you". Has been about the same with Hollowsun, analogsamples and whatever.

Thank you for the times it has been up though

[mckenic]

If this was an the least a PITA for you Peter - I completely understand!

Who needs the headache/bandwidth problems...

Not that it matters but Im behind you 100% - make your life a little easier and dont stress so much

Sad to see the service go but happier that you have less troubles!!!



Dave

[mckenic]

... and indeed as you say - active members can still enjoy a slightly smaller service

You shoulda done this ages ago

Dave

[Spe3D]

I never was there but downloaded some very nice samples from spe3d.com.

Hi! Canned Heat, thanks for your comments on Spe3d.Com

Is that closed too?

Not that long ago I removed over 99% of my free samples from the internet - however Spe3d.Com will still have the odd focused free file for others to download - plus other bits n bobs when I get round to it - Spe3d.Com but it is my fun site, it is also the last to get updated (it took me a few years to get a basic page up ) due to all the other projects and things I do - but its there now so should slowly grow faster - if that makes sense

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)

Sad news. But certainly understandable. Perfectly.
Just as with any such things, people log in, grab the stuff and don't even think about saying "thank you". Has been about the same with Hollowsun, analogsamples and whatever.

Thank you for the times it has been up though

Sascha, yes they have all been hit in a similar way, I guess its just the way it is on the internet (maybe in all aspects of life - scary as it might sound)

Thank you Sascha, the Auditorium got to see some of the finest samples ever produced in the free (or even commercial) domain. It was cool to have them featured while I could.

Best regards,

Peter

If this was an the least a PITA for you Peter - I completely understand!

Who needs the headache/bandwidth problems...

Not that it matters but Im behind you 100% - make your life a little easier and dont stress so much

Sad to see the service go but happier that you have less troubles!!!



Dave

Thank you Dave

... and indeed as you say - active members can still enjoy a slightly smaller service

You shoulda done this ages ago

Dave

By the looks of it, a significantly less service and you are right - I should have done this ages ago - I was forever hopeful the behaviour of the net would change :doh:

Thank you Dave,

Best regards,

Peter

[ao_ks]

Yes this is sad .

I also have the same problem on Kreativ Sounds Forum with the people downloading the free reason refills, but at least we do sell a few products from time to time ...

All the best!

[herodotus]

This is the end of an era.

I could never have gotten my start in the looping world without the Auditorium. That such a service was wrecked upon the shoals of something-for-nothing greed is indeed very sad.


Good luck Peter.

[Sascha Franck]

I don't know how this could work, but perhaps some of us folks could unite to buy some serious bandwidth and server space.
I don't have a single clue how expensive that would be, as I actually don't have an idea about the traffic (any figures, Peter?) happening.
All I know is that back in the days, when I hired some server space for a shitty website, there's been some bandwidth issues allready. And I only used that space to share some of my EXS sampler patches.

But, as I really love the idea of a more or less open sample sharing community, I'd be willing to contribute some money to it as well. I know that there's allways gonna be folks sort of "abusing" such services, but maybe one can bear with them in case the costs are shared.
Dunno...

[mckenic]

I would support that Sascha!

Perhaps we could band together a few folks and ask Peter to put up a sponcered section???

Dave

[M'Snah]

The net effect of any good initiatief will be that freeloaders will continue downloading everything they can and wasting bandwidth.

I think it's a sound step to stop sharing everything with everybody, although it would be great to find a way to share some stuff with some people (not necessarily including me , even though I'm not a regular at the Auditorium, I have affinity with audioshots.com ).

Maybe Jeremy's solution works, to give more or less controlled access to the free stuff by registering email addresses. Although my preference would be to make it a bit more commercial, with a subscription payment or so, to cover the consumed bandwidth. And if only few people want to pay, then there's no need to do it for free either.

[SampleStream]

Thank you guys, the concept is cool - but believe me - the cost is high to host anything with good bandwidth and diskspace - I think funding would fall short simply because as M'Snah says -we would be funding mass downloading, Like a big big feed of the entire internet - the other option is a pay per download - or pay for membership, and I just know that wont work, as the membership - I doubt too many would be interested in it.

Put a price to something and everything stops imo.

I have tried many approaches, wording, how to access them etc. there is a mass behaviour that will render the project inoperable, eventually.

As it stands I am now moving my attentions to the Auditorium Sections and will be removing members who have left no feedback at all to anyone at the auditorium - this will eradicate the spammers, plus quite a bulk of the membership at the Auditorium.

I just don't think many would be interested in funding a project when there are still so many alternatives for free - and advertising is something I don't want at the auditorium, its a place to share music, the creation and the interest of art.

Best regards,

Peter

[Sascha Franck]

See, I'd be able to pay like, hm, between 10-20€ a month more or less easily.
If there's 10-20 people doing so, that should cover quite some bandwidth, even for the freeloaders - or am I wrong?

[Spe3D]

10 to 30 Euro is a lot of money to pay per month Sascha, you would not be wrong indeed if artists were prepared to pay that kind of money on a monthly basis it would be a significant help to the up keep of such a site. Are there that many people - I guess the more members the better - and lower the cost - but are there that many - my hunch is there is not- having never asked I just don't know. Is there that many?

Best regards,

Peter

[Sascha Franck]

I wouldn't happen to know.
Sure, I could as well just hire some personal space for around 10-20€ (there's quite some reasonable offers), but this is exactly what I wouldn't like to do (let alone my webdesign skills being less than even existing). I really love the idea of everybody being able to participate and having everything sorted in some nice forum-style thing.
Oh yes, there will allways be freeloaders, but perhaps these costs could be covered somehow.
See, while I perfectly understand things, I don't exactly like restricted stuff. In order to build up a nice, interactive sample sharing system there need to be a lot of people contributing. Restrictions will keep quite some of them away.
That's why I'd rather pay for the freeloaders as well than keeping possibly worthwhile contributors out.