Instability buttons for Feedbug?

[Barbed Wire Kiss]

Hi

I absolutely love Feedbug. Ever since the first time I used it, and it gave me a sound reminiscent of Spaceman 3's 'Suicide'. But I was thinking it needed some instability, in the way that you get with guitars feeding back. So how about Instability butttons for the the Feeding and the xy pad parameters - I tried it out by wiggling the controls about and it sounded stupid when I did to the Distance parameter.

I was thinking at first of having LFOs added to the GUI, but that would go against the whole minimal Betabug ethos, so I came up with the idea of having just buttons and the ability to affects the amount of movement and choices of LFO shapes from midi & the hosts automations.

What does anyone else think?

Garry.

[sparrow]

I wish I could download Feedbug from somewhere... then I could tell you what I think!

[Watto]

So do I!

[fabi]

yup, it's a nice effect and has its place in my default projects for months now.

[Barbed Wire Kiss]

I wish I could download Feedbug from somewhere... then I could tell you what I think!

Well sparrow PM me with your email address, and I'll email the dll to you and Watto when I get home from work.

[sparrow]

Thanks! I just got an email from another very kind member of this forum who sent me this fx.

After having tried it I must say it's a really nice plugin. I just inserted it on a bass track and it gave the bass the dimension I'd been looking for for days...
I actually found a way around the bass thing in another way, but the great thing about Feedbug is that it does it in a couple of tweaks.

I think that the instability thing can be achieved by using extra effects added to the chain. I think more controls would make the plugin unnecesarily complex to use, but hey that's only my point of view. I usually go for fx that do a very specific thing really well and I thing Feedbug falls into that category.

Barbed, thanks again your offering


S

[Newbie Brad]

Feedbug is terrific.

[Newbie Brad]

If you guys need help getting it, contact Christian Budde its developer? Or ask Lunch or Mully?

[Barbed Wire Kiss]

I think that the instability thing can be achieved by using extra effects added to the chain.

Hmm, interesting. What effects have you used?

[sparrow]

Well for instance you can dupe the guitar track and add feedbug to the second channel which can be called "drastic fx channel" (Sometimes I even need two or three of these channels!).

One of the reasons I do this is to have more control over the wet signal without damaging the original tone of the dry signal. It also gives me more headroom.

In the Feedbug channel you can work with a filter and a delay in order to get severe feedback variations.
Some filters have so many features...I always find the ways to getting there by automating the sweeps for instance.
The delay can also be programmed to create the patern that you want.

The Chorus CH-2 is another plugin worth considering.
Moneo comes to mind as well (changing the volumes of each side of the stereo signal for instance).

Then I usually mix this channel with the original guitar track and do a lot of things manually, like time stretching some parts, cutting and pasting, etc...
until it all sounds like one instrument doing the whole thing.
Pitch shifting also does the trick sometimes. Of course it all depends on the kind of sound you're modeling, but there definitely are lotsa possibilities.
Let's just say that before Feedbug we had no chance to even emulate guitar feedback. The only choice I had was with Slayer VSTi.
I'm still not shure on how accurate the emulation can be with Feedbug, but what I like is that it gives you something that you can start taking further... and anyways, sometimes you don't even need to replicate the original, or do you?


S

[Barbed Wire Kiss]

The idea of the second efx channel is interesting in itself. But I'm can't imagine how the rest of the method reaches the objective, so I'll have to try it out for myself - edit as I write - although it sounds like the movement in the feedback would come from fast filter sweeps and the sharp repetitions of the delays. But that's just an attempt to brainstorm.

[nickm]

Missed the don't publish thingie...

[sparrow]

The idea of the second efx channel is interesting in itself. But I'm can't imagine how the rest of the method reaches the objective, so I'll have to try it out for myself - edit as I write - although it sounds like the movement in the feedback would come from fast filter sweeps and the sharp repetitions of the delays. But that's just an attempt to brainstorm.

Yeah, I see what you mean. I was just throwing ideas in the wind basically But yes, if I needed to emulate feedback I would probably stick to the second fx channel and use it to basically sculpt each feedback part individually and according to the needs of the song I'm working on, whatever that takes.
I'll do further research on this tomorrow, try to see how many variations of(convincing)feedback I can get using this plugin in a chain.
I can't actually remember this specific Spaceman 3 song you mention. What kind of arrangement it was?

[Marybelle]

Did a little digging, because FeedBug sounded just way too cool. Here it is in a bundle of plugs from the original developer, Christian Budde:

http://www-users.rwth-aachen.de/Christi ... Bundle.zip

Didn't he ask this bundle not be published? Or is linking here not publishing

[Barbed Wire Kiss]

Yeah, I see what you mean. I was just throwing ideas in the wind basically But yes, if I needed to emulate feedback I would probably stick to the second fx channel and use it to basically sculpt each feedback part individually and according to the needs of the song I'm working on, whatever that takes.
I'll do further research on this tomorrow, try to see how many variations of(convincing)feedback I can get using this plugin in a chain.
I can't actually remember this specific Spaceman 3 song you mention. What kind of arrangement it was?

It was a long drone-psyche tune. It's named after Suicide the band.

It'll be interesting what you find in your research.