Were the good old days better

[dover666]

good old days =
one guitar - one bass - one jazz kit.
lots of girls. i only ever had more than one girl in my bed when i had a bedroom for a studio.
so meh. good old days. now i talk myself out of jerking off.

[Max el Belga]

Oeps, this is a section for old people. Sorry, I'll come back later when Í'm old (now only 53)... .. .

[Wopelka]

I imagine not a lot of people here have a deep background in classical music

i imagine you're wrong

[SuitcaseOfLizards]

I imagine not a lot of people here have a deep background in classical music

i imagine you're wrong

I imagine you're a twat.

Wait, I'm not imaginging it, it's true!

I'll bet you a beer that the majority of KVR posters aren't widely versed in "classical" music. From what I've seen, most people here have a greater background in "modern" music. I'd take a poll but considering that it would be a self-selecting sample the results of same wouldn't be considered statistically significant... so unless either of us can produce accurate, bias-free statistics "imagination" is where this will end up staying..

Now piss off, you irritating son of a maggoty potato!

Oh, and have a nice day!

[Wopelka]

(have a nice day too)

[pooshka]

Pooshka you make a couple of good points in your post - i've got one thing to add, though, regarding chart music: I think the difference compared to the times of Mozart etc. is that many people consider chart music as art and people like J.Lo, Eminem, heck even boyband people consider themselves to be artists. Then again where to draw that line is purely subjective again.

Ok that's a good point. :p Although I said that these 'popular musicians' should be evaluated in different light than classical composers like Mozart, you are right to point out that it's these modern musicians themselves who claim to be 'artists'.

But this is also the part that gets on my nerves most of time - I can understand why some people would like to claim themselves as something, like artist, writer, philosopher, intellectual or whatever. But I think most of time there is some sort of a very negative vibe about it when people start to talk about what other people are NOT. You know what I mean?

OK, so Eminem would like to think he's an artist so he goes around calling himself as one - that's his personal agenda. He has this self-image that he wants to make real, so I can understand where he's coming from. We'd all like to develop & be the kind of person that we wish to be.

But for those who would jump on every oppotunity to say that Eminem or J Lo or whoever is NOT an artist - what are their personal agendas? What are these peoiple trying to do? That's the part I don't really understand I guess.

[keyman_sam]

I learnt 6 yrs of classical music (and did recital exams too). :p

[VicDiesel]

I imagine not a lot of people here have a deep background in classical music

There are a few.

I've written a four-voice fugue, sitting in my easy chair -- it was past the hour where my neighbours would let me play piano -- and it was performed to audience acclaim pretty much like that.

I'll be performing some baroque and renaissance music next month. I'm learning the difference between baroque and renaissance ornamentation.

That deep enough?

Victor.

[Milos]

I like Johan Sebastian Bach very much.I Especially like his organ works-Passacaglia bwv 582 is my favourite:)I haven't listened Mozart much though.

We can trace Bach's composing procedures to the very beginning. He made his own manuscript paper with a writing tool called a Rastral and there is enough material to reconstruct the mechanics of his process all the way to tabula rasa. For some work, he prepared a large supply of paper in advance, without regard to the musical layout of the score, and for other work, he made the paper with the precise number of staves required for a given composition, even leaving space for things he planned, but did not lay out calligraphically.

For example, when making the staff paper, Bach, sometimes assisted, and sometimes alone, would spread out a folded sheet, and ruled from the outside edge of each page to the center fold. The staves overlap at the fold, and rarely extend to the edge of the page.

I have enough musical examples of Bach's revision style to base a Masters thesis on it; I considered it actually. A great deal of insight into the composer's processes can be deduced from the corrections he made in various Chorales, since there is a decent amount of source material to study.

You mentioned BWV 582. That's interesting; even though it's one of Bach's most famous organ works, my understanding is that there is no autograph manuscript known, only late contemporary copies. There were references to manuscripts, but none is known today. Two points of controversy are that there is some evidence that Bach didn't intend for this Passacaglia and Fugue to be a single work (even though they work together magically), and, that the fugue was not an organ work at all, but was composed for pedal harpsichord.


I'll stop my ranting now; I'm sure Baroque music history isn't exactly what the KVRians are into

Wow,thanks very much.I really appreciate info on that.Can you recommend me some other Bach organ works besides bwv 537,565 and 582

[VicDiesel]

Can you recommend me some other Bach organ works besides bwv 537,565 and 582

Personally, I think the trio sonatas are absolutely wonderful.

Victor.

[vurt]

i prefer bachs cello works

[knockman]

his flower remedies are worth checking out too.



sorry