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blaqjak9019 · Post by **blaqjak9019** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:48 pm

Can anyone reccomend any techniques or vst plugins that may help fix a vocal recording with a weak signal? I have no preamp(not avaliable). My beginning signal is just weak. Any suggestions?

Juanjo · Post by **Juanjo** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:57 pm

How are you recording your voice without a preamp?

Also what gear and software are you using? More info would help people to help you...

multree · Post by **multree** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:02 pm

well you'll need a preamp.... either within or before your soundcard.... otherwise it will always sound crappy

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:03 pm

blaqjak9019 wrote:Can anyone reccomend any techniques or vst plugins that may help fix a vocal recording with a weak signal? I have no preamp(not avaliable). My beginning signal is just weak. Any suggestions?

voxformer would probably bring it up some, and with it's powerful de-esser you might be able to get rid of some noise...what I would do though is (make copies of the tracks first) normalize it up, or use a dp that amplifies in an editor, then use the noise reduction...then I would treat that track with voxformer (I also personally might use my avox throat)....if the noise reduction took too much away I might make several copies and use the eq on voxformer to emphisize different ranges on each copy...

multree · Post by **multree** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:06 pm

Hink wrote:
blaqjak9019 wrote:Can anyone reccomend any techniques or vst plugins that may help fix a vocal recording with a weak signal? I have no preamp(not avaliable). My beginning signal is just weak. Any suggestions?
voxformer would probably bring it up some, and with it's powerful de-esser you might be able to get rid of some noise...what I would do though is (make copies of the tracks first) normalize it up, or use a dp that amplifies in an editor, then use the noise reduction...then I would treat that track with voxformer (I also personally might use my avox throat)....if the noise reduction took too much away I might make several copies and use the eq on voxformer to emphisize different ranges on each copy...

I would simply not do this and work the time you saved by not doing it to get some money to buy a cheap preamp... you can get one for 40€ maybe even less when you buy 'em second hand

multree · Post by **multree** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:09 pm

sorry

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:09 pm

multree wrote:
Hink wrote:
blaqjak9019 wrote:Can anyone reccomend any techniques or vst plugins that may help fix a vocal recording with a weak signal? I have no preamp(not avaliable). My beginning signal is just weak. Any suggestions?
voxformer would probably bring it up some, and with it's powerful de-esser you might be able to get rid of some noise...what I would do though is (make copies of the tracks first) normalize it up, or use a dp that amplifies in an editor, then use the noise reduction...then I would treat that track with voxformer (I also personally might use my avox throat)....if the noise reduction took too much away I might make several copies and use the eq on voxformer to emphisize different ranges on each copy...
I would simply not do this and work the time you saved by not doing it to get some money to buy a cheap preamp... you can get one for 40€ maybe even less when you buy 'em second hand

I totally agree and in fact use the bluetube by presonus...but if you notice his post asks how to fix a recording, not how to record it...that's what I was replying to...

multree · Post by **multree** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:23 pm

Hink wrote:
multree wrote:
Hink wrote:
blaqjak9019 wrote:Can anyone reccomend any techniques or vst plugins that may help fix a vocal recording with a weak signal? I have no preamp(not avaliable). My beginning signal is just weak. Any suggestions?
voxformer would probably bring it up some, and with it's powerful de-esser you might be able to get rid of some noise...what I would do though is (make copies of the tracks first) normalize it up, or use a dp that amplifies in an editor, then use the noise reduction...then I would treat that track with voxformer (I also personally might use my avox throat)....if the noise reduction took too much away I might make several copies and use the eq on voxformer to emphisize different ranges on each copy...
I would simply not do this and work the time you saved by not doing it to get some money to buy a cheap preamp... you can get one for 40€ maybe even less when you buy 'em second hand
I totally agree and in fact use the bluetube by presonus...but if you notice his post asks how to fix a recording, not how to record it...that's what I was replying to...

I was just kidding Hink

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:31 pm

You can use a Gate to make sure none of the dead air noise passes through. Then I'd add a compressor to bring up the volume, and then cut out some of the high freq where the noise exists. Probably better to use a noise reduction software. Depending on how poor the recording is you might want to consider going along with the crappy sound and start trashing it to sound like an old record or 60s thing, it would take away much of the stress of fixing this which can be like picking pepper out of flea shit sometimes

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:33 pm

no worries multree...

multree · Post by **multree** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:32 pm

Hink wrote:no worries multree...

I had none

blaqjak9019 · Post by **blaqjak9019** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:35 pm

thanks... i've had some experience with voxifomer. It works great. But even after I use it, the vocals just don't sound 'upfront'. Is there any kind of compression technique i can use for that?

orangesuite · Post by **orangesuite** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:29 am

Neodynium by Elemental Audio Systems

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:15 am

Normalize or increase the gain, use noise reduction and if you can't get it 'up front' with Voxformer, trying warming up the vocal track with PSP Vintage Warmer or something like it: Voxengo Warmifier, TLs Saturated Driver...what else...Steinberg Magneto; get some tape warmth on there. Or try a 1-3db, wide boost around 5-6 k.

blaqjak9019 · Post by **blaqjak9019** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:24 pm

thanks guy, everything is being taken into consideration.

Any remedy for vocal recordings with bad signals?