WARNING : Samp 8 SE activation scandal

[arke]

...or a hardware firewall which is built into every router and many DSL modems and is much more reliable than any software firewall

how should that work? A firewall needs to ask you about what traffic you allow and what traffic you don't allow... - I'm sure you got something wrong there mate...

Jens, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The firewalls you talk about are designed to protect a consumer PC that is connected to the internet. The reason that the firewall is running on YOUR PC has little to do with 'asking what traffic to allow' and everything with the fact that it is just ONE computer. There is simply no other computer around (with most consumers that is) that can run a dedicated firewall. I have a dedicated computer running a (linux) firewall to protect my complete home network. It is one firewall that protect ALL machines in my network (being my DAW, my own laptop and the laptop of my wife). This is the normal setup for any company network as well. Do you really think that a network administrator is going to maintain all these personal firewalls (like zonealarm and the likes) on all the machines in the company. Surely not. He's maintaining one serious firewall running on one dedicated machine that connects the complete internal network to the internet.

Exactly, thank you.

Or, if you have a small home network with a dedicated linux box, a router will do.

(Although I would prefer a dedicated linux or BSD computer, doubles as a file server, print server, all those fun things )

[jplanet]

Funny, I have never been in a studio where the DAW's could not connect to the internet, and that includes some pretty major studios here in NY. When I'm working on music, I'm constantly using resources on the net, and so do some of the pro engineers I work with.

It's definitely over-protective nowadays. there may have been a time when it was wise, but now it's just overkill.

If you are connected to a router, nothing can find its way in unless you forward ports to your machine's ip.

It's completely safe to disable AV while recording, and takes two seconds by right-clicking your AV icon in the system tray. If you really need to, you can disable your internet while recording also.

[arke]

If you are connected to a router, nothing can find its way in unless you forward ports to your machine's ip.

If I'm not the only person saying it, do my words have a bit more meaning?

[AllenPOPO]

backpage is on the er, right page....(heehee) but seriously when i read the topic i didnt think i would get this crap...dude posting on the internet, talkin about how he doesnt want to post his holier thn World wide web daw online for a sec to register samplitude!!! whatever....THAT is not scandal, minus maybe listing internet as a requirement....sheesh.....

wouldnt a dual boot be optimal in this siuation...or some other similar solution??? get over yourself and your daw...register, disconnect, done......

[diverdee]

I just admit if I ever get around to networking pcs at home (may have to do when our lass gets herself a pc) I have an old p350 (or 450 - I forget) that i've kept around solely for the purpose of using as a linux firewall.
Know nothing about linux really by the way, just read a few bits & bobs on various distros that are good for that specific purpose.
I wouldn't really bother, but our lass & my daughter are a little less savvy than me.
Oh & Arke - nice reply, & you said 'forgive me' as well - I take back pretty much all I said after that show of good manners, bit agitated myself today (time of the month for our lass & my daughter, so i'm currently living in a little private war zone).

[arke]

Yeah, I agree, lets please take the "WARNING:" and the "scandal!111" out of the topic - it's making it seem like the world is coming to an end if you try to register samp.

[VitaminD]

it doesnt?

[arke]

I just admit if I ever get around to networking pcs at home (may have to do when our lass gets herself a pc) I have an old p350 (or 450 - I forget) that i've kept around solely for the purpose of using as a linux firewall.
Know nothing about linux really by the way, just read a few bits & bobs on various distros that are good for that specific purpose.
I wouldn't really bother, but our lass & my daughter are a little less savvy than me.

SuSE would be a good start ... its not really a nice distro if you become a bit more guru-ish with things but YaST pretty much does everything you could want to set up for a home network ... you can put some hard drives in it and connect your printers and your entire house can access those files and print with that printer and stuff .

Oh & Arke - nice reply, & you said 'forgive me' as well - I take back pretty much all I said after that show of good manners, bit agitated myself today (time of the month for our lass & my daughter, so i'm currently living in a little private war zone).

. Yes, I would remember the once a month when my dad would "suddenly need to work overtime" and the best thing to do was stay in your room all day pretending you have alot of homework ... moms + time-of-the-month = bad ....

[jens]

...or a hardware firewall which is built into every router and many DSL modems and is much more reliable than any software firewall

how should that work? A firewall needs to ask you about what traffic you allow and what traffic you don't allow... - I'm sure you got something wrong there mate...

Jens, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The firewalls you talk about are designed to protect a consumer PC that is connected to the internet. The reason that the firewall is running on YOUR PC has little to do with 'asking what traffic to allow' and everything with the fact that it is just ONE computer. There is simply no other computer around (with most consumers that is) that can run a dedicated firewall. I have a dedicated computer running a (linux) firewall to protect my complete home network. It is one firewall that protect ALL machines in my network (being my DAW, my own laptop and the laptop of my wife). This is the normal setup for any company network as well. Do you really think that a network administrator is going to maintain all these personal firewalls (like zonealarm and the likes) on all the machines in the company. Surely not. He's maintaining one serious firewall running on one dedicated machine that connects the complete internal network to the internet.

you are talking about software running on dedicated hardware - software, that needs to be configured - usually by a system-adminitrator - the dedicated hardware this software is running on is very different from the dsl-router than came with my internet-connection and is flashing right now with a few shiny LEDs behind my printer...

[Shane Sanders]

There's a scandal in my shorts. I need a firewall to cool me down!

[jens]

it ain't that easy mate - there's no propwe hardware-firewall in dsl-routers and stuff...

dunno what sort of special needs you have then .. it blocks whats incoming, except the VNC port when I need it. Thats all I need it to do and thats all I could ever think it would need to do.

ah - I think I know what's the issue here... - maybe you really have a router you can configure with software (similar to the Fritzbox?) - I dunno because actually I don't have any router at all but just a splitter and a modem as I haven't got isdn - if I wouldn't have installed the fix and would switch Sygate off I'd have sasser within five minutes...

[AllenPOPO]

Am i the only one who thinks that calling an "interent" requirement full-blown scandal??? you make it seem like they were using the audacity engine instead of samplitude......


topic should have been called "Warning: cant activate Samplitude se offline"

simple....whether you connect to the internet or not with your DAW is your biznass....god i hate that word/acronym [daw]....just make music man, DAW is nothing without the musician what happens when THEY get a virus lol


but basically am i the ONLY one who thinks topic was misleading, and upon reading....downright wrong?




edit: thought my above post got barfed by server, so i posted agin with some thought revisions.......sowee if i sound repetitive

[Reverse Engineer]

Am i the only one who thinks that calling an "interent" requirement full-blown scandal??? you make it seem like they were using the audacity engine instead of samplitude......


topic should have been called "Warning: cant activate Samplitude se offline"

simple....whether you connect to the internet or not with your DAW is your biznass....god i hate that word/acronym [daw]....just make music man, DAW is nothing without the musician what happens when THEY get a virus lol


but basically am i the ONLY one who thinks topic was misleading, and upon reading....downright wrong?

2006...war in iraq...war in afghanistan...iran acting the c**t (again)...a mentalcase as president in america (again )...disciplining children illegal more or less...australia not been nuked yet....of course it's a scandal

[arke]

you are talking about software running on dedicated hardware - software, that needs to be configured - usually by a system-adminitrator - the dedicated hardware this software is running on is very different from the dsl-router than came with my internet-connection and is flashing right now with a few shiny LEDs behind my printer...

mine didn't need to be configured, it blocks all incoming by default. Actually, I think they all do that by default (as they should).

ah - I think I know what's the issue here... - maybe you really have a router you can configure with software (similar to the Fritzbox?) - I dunno because actually I don't have any router at all but just a splitter and a modem as I haven't got isdn - if I wouldn't have installed the fix and would switch Sygate off I'd have sasser within five minutes...

Its just a router, which pretty much always includes the firewall.

In your case ... yeah, you need the firewall on the computer. But I wouldn't have it annoy me every time, just have it allow outgoing and block incoming .

[Vocalvoodoo]

No serious musician or sounddesigner has connected his DAW to the internet.

That weird considering I make my living with my DAW, and it's connected to the internet. LOL I'm clearly not 'serious' though.