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AL GEE · Post by **AL GEE** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:48 pm

hi i was wondering if anyone here uses fruityloops 6 with guru?in fruitylopps 6 i cant drag the guru patterns keys into the channels like in fl5.why is this?is this going to be fixed?

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:58 pm

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 2c3cc77305

best to ask at tech support , at the FL forum , no ?...

AL GEE · Post by **AL GEE** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:10 pm

well i am using the demos to see what works well together i wanted to use acid pro 6 and guru together and there is a problem with guru in that host.i wanted to try and use guru with fl6 but apparently there this is a problem with fl6.i am using the demos and dont belong to the forums so i dont know who to ask to see if this will be fixed.any suggestions?

Angus_FX · Post by **Angus_FX** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:16 pm

The Acid 6 problem will certainly be fixed, FXpansion is aware of that one. As to the FL6 one, that's FL's bug, I have no idea whether or not GOL will decide to fix it.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:21 pm

>>I have no idea whether or not GOL will decide to fix it

We changed from message-based drag/drop to OLE-based one (it's the same as Windows uses for its own stuff, like the explorer), it's much more powerful (and allows visual feedback as you can see in FL6).
Unfortunately it's not compatible with message-based one, because OLE containers have a higher priority.

So it's not a bug on either side. But if you really want to, you can still support OLE drag/drop, and it'll work with FL.

Angus_FX · Post by **Angus_FX** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:24 pm

Are you saying it's not possible for a D&D receive client to support both message-based and OLE methods? Surely not -- for example, Explorer windows support both methods.

AL GEE · Post by **AL GEE** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:29 pm

thanks again Angus .but do you know when this patch will be available?(for acid pro 6)

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:29 pm

>>Surely not -- for example, Explorer windows support both methods

not really, they're actually compatible, but OLE has a higher priority. So if your plugin doesn't get the message, it's because there's FL behind that's also an OLE drop container.

So because FL gets the drop, your plugin doesn't. AFAIK it's not possible to tell a VSTi 'here, use this file' (it's possible with FL plugins, though), so we have no way to tell the plugin. We can't fake a drop message, unfortunately.

Otherwise our drag/drop works with other apps that don't support OLE, because they're in a separate mother window.

Angus_FX · Post by **Angus_FX** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:07 pm

AL GEE -- the patch for Acid6 is in beta now.

Gol -- Al & I are not talking about drag-receive, but drag-send from the plugin to FL.. in FL5 you could drag a midi-pattern FROM GURU to a midi track in FL; apparently this no longer works with FL6.

Distorted_Mastermind · Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:27 pm

Would copy and paste be a decent workaround? I don't use GURU, but do use FL6, seems fairly logical to me though.

Angus_FX · Post by **Angus_FX** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:33 pm

Copy and paste won't work -- what would work, though, is to drag the MIDI to a folder in explorer (or the desktop) and from there to FL. Only just thought of that

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:56 pm

but drag-send from the plugin to FL.. in FL5 you could drag a midi-pattern FROM GURU to a midi track in FL; apparently this no longer works with FL6.

mmh that's weird, it should work. I can still drag/drop files from other sources, including total commander that's not using OLE (I think), and it works. While dropping onto plugins is a problem with FL6, dropping onto FL still works for everything I use.

What doesn't work? The initial drag, or the actual drop? Does it say it's forbidden, or it does nothing?

AL GEE · Post by **AL GEE** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:23 pm

i tried dragging the patterns from guru's pattern keys onto the sample channels.the only thing thta shows up is a circle with a line in it.the midi doesn't show up like it use to in fl 5.

fruityloops and guru