Difference between REX2 and WAV Loops?

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ohm wrote:I already decided to add Rex-support to LiveSlice for that same reason - the format is very widespread. It will be in LiveSlice 1.5, next release is 1.4. I'm still gonna copy their stretching algorithm though :-)
...this has so made my day...

:hail: :tu: :hail: :tu: :hail: :tu:

...but will it also import Recycle 2.1 files in 24bit? :roll: :wink:

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loachm wrote: ...but will it also import Recycle 2.1 files in 24bit? :roll: :wink:
I'm 98% positive it will. What happens is that Propellerheads supply the actual Recycle reader, I simply have to integrate it (after signing a pile of legal documents). It should be very simple to keep it up to date this way.
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Krakatau wrote:spectrum

Just in order to defy you a bit :

How would your groove control behave with a looped sample of a entire rock music mix ?

An example i have in mind : released in 1972, the intro of "highway star" from the band Deep Purple ( the album called "Machine head" ) that is purely a 4/4 ,squary, hard rock kind of music

this is of a perfect timing and a very simple groove ( probably easy to modify without severe artifacts, but absolutely no sequences inside ) would it be then possible, after overall adjustments of course, to turn it to some shuffle kind of groove ( like the BACKGROUND GROOVES of music of bands like Status Quo or Mungo Jerry, both from early seventies too, with thenss very similar kind of production ! )

This by stetching and crunching the appropriate slices inside the loops ?
Our Groove Control method works best mainly on percussive material. Tonal loops are an entirely different ballgame.

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spectrum wrote:
Krakatau wrote:spectrum

Just in order to defy you a bit :

How would your groove control behave with a looped sample of a entire rock music mix ?

An example i have in mind : released in 1972, the intro of "highway star" from the band Deep Purple ( the album called "Machine head" ) that is purely a 4/4 ,squary, hard rock kind of music

this is of a perfect timing and a very simple groove ( probably easy to modify without severe artifacts, but absolutely no sequences inside ) would it be then possible, after overall adjustments of course, to turn it to some shuffle kind of groove ( like the BACKGROUND GROOVES of music of bands like Status Quo or Mungo Jerry, both from early seventies too, with thenss very similar kind of production ! )

This by stetching and crunching the appropriate slices inside the loops ?
Our Groove Control method works best mainly on percussive material. Tonal loops are an entirely different ballgame.
you should check out scrambled hacks - looks like a very fun tool. Not exactly a typical groove quantizer though :-)
http://www.livelab.dk - slice up your life

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Thanks for the tips folks, ...

...i expect that i still need to wait and see the overall evolution of these time stretching/pitch shifting technique, especially if once they would be specifically targeting REX files or similar techniques of beatslicing, this as a complementary direction of its actual improoved use

"Tonal loops are an entirely different ballgame."

I suspect you may have some major experiences on that precise point, isn't it ?

:wink:

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just had a very short look on these "scrambled hacks" concepts

look quite disturbing, but simultaneously a very sensible critique about intellectualk properties

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Krakatau wrote:An example i have in mind : released in 1972, the intro of "highway star" from the band Deep Purple ( the album called "Machine head" ) that is purely a 4/4 ,squary, hard rock kind of music

this is of a perfect timing and a very simple groove ( probably easy to modify without severe artifacts, but absolutely no sequences inside ) would it be then possible, after overall adjustments of course, to turn it to some shuffle kind of groove ( like the BACKGROUND GROOVES of music of bands like Status Quo or Mungo Jerry, both from early seventies too, with thenss very similar kind of production ! )

This by stetching and crunching the appropriate slices inside the loops ?

...actually, I've seen a guy at the Celemony stand at the Musikmesse doing this with the Studio version of Melodyne 3 and its new polyphonic time-stretching algorithm - he took a complete mix and slowed it down or speeded it up and shuffled it. And I guess, Ableton Live could also do the same to some extent...

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