KVR Audio

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:15 pm

rpmartino wrote:DX and VST have less straightforward sidechain support but we'll still look into getting it working in these formats, it will just take longer.

I've no idea on DX, but with VST you've not much other choice than to implement 4 discrete inputs for stereo sidechaining, just like everybody else. And even then it's up to the host wether it'll support it or not. It's a bitch, innit?

For mono you need to make a separate version as well. *sigh*

luckily VST SDK and host support is improving slowly when it comes to this.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:15 pm

rpmartino wrote:We are now working on adding external sidechain capability to the AU, MAS and RTAS versions of TrackPlug 5 and hope to have it ready in the next update (which will also support MacIntel AU and RTAS) by the end of the month or early next month. DX and VST have less straightforward sidechain support but we'll still look into getting it working in these formats, it will just take longer.

It's something that's actually more difficult to do with the VST format? What an odd thing for Steinberg to do...

EDIT: I guess Kingston answered that.

> DiGiT < · Post by **> DiGiT <** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:46 pm

bduffy wrote:
> DiGiT < wrote:isnt there a difference between side channel and side chaining?
One's the correct term and one is made up?

this is incorrect. these are 2 different things. a side chain is where one channel affects the processing of another, and mid/side is where the mid is what a stereo signal has in common for both channels, and side is the unique info contained in each side of a stereo configuration.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:57 pm

> DiGiT < wrote:
bduffy wrote:
> DiGiT < wrote:isnt there a difference between side channel and side chaining?
One's the correct term and one is made up?
this is incorrect. these are 2 different things. a side chain is where one channel affects the processing of another, and mid/side is where the mid is what a stereo signal has in common for both channels, and side is the unique info contained in each side of a stereo configuration.

Nice try, but "sidechannel" is just wrong in terms of what the original poster was asking about: Twisted Lemon Sidekick has nothing to do with M/S processing, I would say. I think it's pretty obvious that wasn't what anyone was talking about.

And I don't really hear people referring to it as "sidechanneling"; I think that may be a computer technology term though....

> DiGiT < · Post by **> DiGiT <** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:14 pm

well i wasnt questioning what people were talking about, just the title of the thread.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:16 pm

djsubject wrote:Slim Slow Slider sidechains being used in eXT as we speek & i think i will use sidechain comps on my bass in allmost every track i do!!!!!!

no lets spread the word that this is the way to have big bass & bass in your kik & not have a muffled mix

Subz

How do you set it up?
Do you want to share a xt example with us?

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:19 pm

> DiGiT < wrote:well i wasnt questioning what people were talking about, just the title of the thread.

Oh, I see. Well, yes, there is such a thing as a "side channel", but not in this context.

Superchibisan · Post by **Superchibisan** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:20 pm

how do i make this whole sidechain thing work in Ableton?

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:40 pm

Kingston wrote:I've no idea on DX, but with VST you've not much other choice than to implement 4 discrete inputs for stereo sidechaining, just like everybody else. And even then it's up to the host wether it'll support it or not. It's a bitch, innit?

For mono you need to make a separate version as well. *sigh*

luckily VST SDK and host support is improving slowly when it comes to this.

There's a couple of sidechaining comps that have two plugins, a send and a receive. The audio is passed between the two independently of the host's audio engine so it doesn't matter what level of VST support your host has.

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:41 pm

Superchibisan wrote:how do i make this whole sidechain thing work in Ableton?

I think there's a tut on the ableton site.

Logic's internal sidechain facilities are great, but they only work with their own plugins.

Superchibisan · Post by **Superchibisan** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:56 pm

there is osmething about routing, which is a helpful tut, but i see nothing about sidechaining and side chain compressors... which is what i wish to know more about

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:59 am

Google. Ever try it? Result #5:

http://otium.hjem.myinternet.dk/mirror/ ... echain.zip

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:45 am

D-Fusion wrote:
djsubject wrote:Slim Slow Slider sidechains being used in eXT as we speek & i think i will use sidechain comps on my bass in allmost every track i do!!!!!!

no lets spread the word that this is the way to have big bass & bass in your kik & not have a muffled mix

Subz
How do you set it up?
Do you want to share a xt example with us?

no problem

www.skirize.adbe.org/sc2.ext

enjoy

Subz

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:49 am

djsubject wrote:
D-Fusion wrote:
djsubject wrote:Slim Slow Slider sidechains being used in eXT as we speek & i think i will use sidechain comps on my bass in allmost every track i do!!!!!!

no lets spread the word that this is the way to have big bass & bass in your kik & not have a muffled mix

Subz
How do you set it up?
Do you want to share a xt example with us?
no problem

www.skirize.adbe.org/sc2.ext

enjoy

Subz

Thanks

arke · Post by **arke** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:55 am

Debutante wrote:Is there a method of working Slim Slow Slider's Sideckick Compressor in FL?

you dont need it. Put a peak controller on the controlling channel, and a compressor on the to-be-controlled channel. Link the compressor ratio to the peak controllers peak value. change values to suit - bam, instant sidechain.

More sidechannel tools?