SpinnerLE - almost-a-rant ....

[jens]

NubiLE and SpinnerLe are two of the very few plugins I use on almost every song. There are just incredibly usable - this includes that they're light on the cpu... - right now I don't have any money left to buy any plugins or to donate but I will as soon as I can... - you deserve it!!! Your plugins are ace!!! - Can't say much more - thanks a lot, PJ!!!

[pj geerlings]

NubiLE is legendaty! Thanx pj - keep up the good work!

You are welcome - I'll do my best

The NubiLE and SpinnerLE are real great sounding plugins. Great GUI and very easy on CPU.It's ahead of most digital stuff.
PJ you've got some great ears and you're a great designer.
Altough I'm a guitar player I have recorded with real Hammonds and leslie in the past.NubiLE and SpinnerLE really come close.
Everybody should try this!!
I must say I did not make a donation yet due to the fact thatI'm
just foolin around with the (free)VST stuff at this point.I'm still lookin for things to forget the hardware.
I have not recorded with it and as soon as I will publish some music I will make donations!!
I would say that everybody who's makin money with it should consider to donate.
keep up with the great work

regards
Jan

Thanks!

hey- If pj's work makes ya happy, make pj happy
sounds fair ta me

This may become my new policy at home - and I've notified my wife as well

thanks

(hey, i have donated, i don't need to say more )

actually i quite like the tube section, will it be expanded in spinner plus, or just stay as it is? (great already)

Regarding the tube section - Yes, it will be expanded! In addition to the existing three controls (Enable, Drive and Level) there will be an adjustable high-frequency pre-comp with Fc and Boost, an adjustable DC Offset input and a Bass Control on the output with Fc and Boost.

Keep in mind, pj, probably the majority of dev's DL's are "curiosity DL's". It's very hard to say how many people end up keeping or using much of what they DL on KVR. I have tons of free stuff I don't use much and many, many payware demos I've barely tried. Since .dll's and plugin support files are usually pretty small, the drive just gets piled up with them over time and I barely notice. This is KVR, man. You gotta DL at least three new things a day.

This is so true - I will have to keep this in mind before I get too despondent.

NubiLE and SpinnerLe are two of the very few plugins I use on almost every song. There are just incredibly usable - this includes that they're light on the cpu... - right now I don't have any money left to buy any plugins or to donate but I will as soon as I can... - you deserve it!!! Your plugins are ace!!! - Can't say much more - thanks a lot, PJ!!!

I'm happy to hear you are enjoying them!

BTW, since starting this thread originally I have received a few more "thank you" emails - maybe the squeaky wheel does get the grease after all

peace,
pj

[Sickle]

I'm confused. In the [full] version of Spinner, I don't see a valve section, but it's in the free one..

Am I right, or is this backwards or....

[pj geerlings]

I'm confused. In the [full] version of Spinner, I don't see a valve section, but it's in the free one..

Am I right, or is this backwards or....

SpinnerLE is actually built from the SpinnerPlus code base - The Valve Effects section is an addition that will appear in the release version of SpinnerPlus. As I mentioned above, the Valve effects section will be expanded in SpinnerPlus to include 5 more controls than what is currently available in SpinnerLE. There may even be more features added. In any case, as a contributor you will receive a copy of SpinnerPlus for free as soon as I can release it.

In the meantime I am working on a replacement for XOVR that will include all the Valve Effects controls as well as the Horn Filter and a variable crossover.

SpinnerPLus is currently in need of a GUI and amoebe has had some problems with his computer lately - he hasn't answered an email (and PM) I sent a few days ago. I am hopeful things will get back to normal soon...

peace,
pj

[Z3R0T0N1N]

i will check it out. i never really used "real" instrument sounds before, but recently have been testing the waters.
already did a song with ep in it (lazySnake), so i guess organ is next.
i will let you know what i think.

[pj geerlings]

i will check it out. i never really used "real" instrument sounds before, but recently have been testing the waters.
already did a song with ep in it (lazySnake), so i guess organ is next.
i will let you know what i think.

IMO - for shear cool nothin' beats a tone wheel organ - I hope after you've tried NuBi LE you will agree

To Everyone: I've updated the index page of my website and added a download page which may help to avoid confusion (and guilt) regarding the "LE package"

I really appreciate all the input I have received from this thread! I am going to do my next "almost-a-rant" on the subject of NuBi LE Reviews - there's only one of 'em so far

peace,
pj

[M'Snah]

PJ this one's for you

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 85#1765085

[msl]

Let me first say thanks (again!) for the great plugs. I have donated and also reported at least one bug so I would really like you to have the success you deserve with NuBi LE, if only so I can get some nice new versions!

Anyway, for feedback... I did find myself agreeing with some of the comments above, particularly around the charging model and packaging. It is quite unconventional and perhaps also too confusing. Personally I would prefer to see two versions of NuBi and Spinner: free and full-version.

By all means keep the facility for people to make an (entirely optional) donation of whatever size they want to support the free version, but I really wouldn't expect to get much from this. Stick a price-tag on the full version and you can very gradually raise this price-tag as more features are added and it therefore becomes more valuable. Continue free version upgrades for existing owners of the full version. So your pricing model essentially stays exactly the same as it is now but is much clearer and more confortable for people to understand; and with no guilt.

I actually really like what you've done by providing SpinnerLE as a reduced-function version of Spinner. It fits very well with the free and full-version model -- full version is essentially the same as the free version but with some additional features. Just be careful to leave some reason for people to get the full version! However, new function (e.g. tube drive) really shouldn't appear in the free version before the full version.

Having Spinner usable as a stanalone effect (either as a seperate plug or as one plug where the organ part can be switched off) is nice -- I really like the sound of Spinner. As suggested above, there may be an opportunity there to offer the full-version of Spinner (without NuBi) as a lower-cost product. But of course with an upgrade to full-version of NuBi+Spinner available costing the difference between the Spinner and full NuBi package!

One final point is the packaging and ease of upgrading. Especially once Spinner was thrown into the mix, upgrading has not been as easy as it should be. Having to seperately upgrade individual bits is just unnecessary hassle. Please, please just provide one bundle containing both NuBi and Spinner with every version upgrade that simply allows the old version to be deleted and the new one to be unpacked.

I hope this feedback is useful to you, pj. Keep the good work going with NuBi!

[audiojunkie]

I'm guilty of downloading it...actually, I requested the initial NubiLE via email...But to be honest, I haven't been able to spend much time playing with it.

As I said in my previous response, the idea that people just leave NuBi LE laying about unused is new to me - but I can completely understand it. I suspect I too have done the exact same thing from time to time

Actually, to be exact, I've only loaded it into the NubiLE once, and that was in v1.0something (an earlier version than the current incarnation), so I could play a few chords and gawk at that sexy Ameobe interface on my new monitor. I downloaded it with the intention of making presets for it though, which hopefully i'll get the time to make one day; when I do, I'll donate accordingly.

I do hope you find it useful!

-pj

PJ,

Unfortunately, this has been my problem as well. I'm currently in my level 1 courses (after 4 years at the university) to be a teacher (a one year program). I saw that you released it, didn't want to miss out, downloaded it, and still haven't tried it out. (But I DO think I thanked you -- although thanks isn't honestly quite enough in my opinion.) I have experienced its quality as its tonewheels incarnation, but I have yet to load it up with its GUI. And now the Spinner has been included. I have absolutely NO doubt that this plug will be absolutely great, but I just haven't had a chance to do anything with it.

I'm sorry, and I hope you don't get discouraged, because I really do appreciate all you (and all of the other great programmers out there) have done for us.

--Sean

[Vendaval]

Hi!

Recently I've downloaded NubiLE and Spinner LE..: Excellent Work!!

I love Hammonds, but unfortunately never I end up using them... Perhaps it's because I'm a guitarist...

BUT I know some pianists who can enjoy them... I'll advise your plugins, doubtlessly.

... Just one thing that I've observed: SpinnerLE creates a text file in C: called "SpnrLE". Maybe a possible bug..?


Greetings

[pj geerlings]

Hi!

Recently I've downloaded NubiLE and Spinner LE..: Excellent Work!!

I love Hammonds, but unfortunately never I end up using them... Perhaps it's because I'm a guitarist...

BUT I know some pianists who can enjoy them... I'll advise your plugins, doubtlessly.

... Just one thing that I've observed: SpinnerLE creates a text file in C: called "SpnrLE". Maybe a possible bug..?


Greetings

It's part of my plans for world domination ....


J/K

Actually if you open it (it's a text file) you will see the setting of all the parameters used in the last preset chosen. The idea was that I could request this file from a user to check out their particular parameter list in a user friendly form. So far it appears you are the first person to notice it.

not a bug - sorry for the confusion

peace,
pj

[bambooman]

ok, another - thank you here ...

for me it was like mentioned above,
downloading something doesn't mean i use it or even like it..

especially, in the case of spinnerLE/nubiLE
i was very confused,
think i downloaded spinnerLE/nubiLE about 10x times!!!

as people were saying it is very good,
but then i like other organs better compared to nubiLE.

so, went back and forth,
deleting nubiLE... loading it... using it.. deleting it..


if i would improve something...i would:

1. improve the cpu-load, a little bit,
i don't like the "jumping" from 4-8-12%
less, or slighter "jumping behavour" would be nice..

2. another thing that bothers me,
the nubiLE main volume is just too low,
all my other plugins or even other organs,
are at least 10-20% louder...

besides that,
i like some of the presets/abilities of it...

[pj geerlings]

1. improve the cpu-load, a little bit, i don't like the "jumping" from 4-8-12% less, or slighter "jumping behavour" would be nice..

The CPU load of Spinner LE is constant - the CPU load for NuBi LE is dependent on the number of notes being rendered at a particular time - the more notes, the higher the CPU utilization. This is largely due to the number of tonewheel oscillators required going up as more notes are pressed. BTW, what kind of CPU are you using?

2. another thing that bothers me, the nubiLE main volume is just too low, all my other plugins or even other organs, are at least 10-20% louder...

There is a config item that can be used to adjust the nominal output volume - check out "OutTrim" in the documentation for NuBiLE.TCV

regards,
pj

[tweakbench]

I've been 'accepting' donations on the Tweakbench site for a good 2 years now, and it's not even close to covering the bandwidth costs that the site generates, nevermind my time spent creating things.

I'm toying with different ways to make the free tweakbench software even better, but in order to commit time to it, it's going to need to make at least a minimal amount of income.

I'm not sure what the right answer is.. maybe Pro versions? Even then i'd feel bad selling them for more than a few dollars.

Regardless.. Tweakbench has been a very open & charitable project since day one, and overall I think the music world is better for it.

[pough]

Regardless.. Tweakbench has been a very open & charitable project since day one, and overall I think the music world is better for it.

Considering the fun I had with Peach a few years ago, I have to agree. That was back when I was first discovering this computer-music world and I was grabbing everything free I could find and playing with it to see what it did and how much fun could be had.

I only ever did one song with it, and that was only a fragment. I resurrected it a few months ago for a friend to hear and he recommended that I try to finish it because Peach sounds so damn cool. I might give it another try, but I seem to recall that it wasn't necessarily in tune with anything other than itself. (And a quick trip to your website indicates you fixed that!)

So yeah, thanks very much for giving to the community. You made MY world better!