KVR Audio

jones-y · Post by **jones-y** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:46 pm

I agree Sascha. I don't wanna derail this thread though, but I do want to ask if you've had a look at Soundtrack Pro's audio editor? That's hot! Hopefully they'll integrate that into Logic someday.

Also, Logic can now send an audio file to Apple Loops Utility, so hopefully external audio editors are not far behind.

As for wavelab and soundforge, I've never used them, so I wouldn't know, but how does DSP Quattro compare? I'm thinking of picking that up.

peejunk · Post by **peejunk** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:11 pm

I nominate Fruity Loops. You record a sample into the audio. You trim it with a handy trim knob. You Ctrl+E edit it further. You drag&drop it into a Fruity Slicer channel. You edit the slices on tyniest waveform display screen you ever saw (ok, so that bit isn't that great but there are BeatCreator and BeatSlicer). Or, you can load it into Granulizer for some timestretching/granulation. It will try to autodetect slice points and adjust granulation/timestretch. You can do wild things with it.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:17 pm

Jones-y your idea of what a slicer should be is exactly what I think, I use Ableton Live as My sampler and if it only had a slicer in it it would be perfect, i get tired of dragging audio clips to the arranger mode and using control+e to split the audio, but since it reads mp3s its a great way to get at ones extensive jazz collection, but sample slice and go seems to be lost on alot of cats, lets hope theres a reprise. for the price liveslice is looking like what i'm going to be pairing with ableton live in the meantime, and if you can afford it Guru is Sick as f**k

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:08 am

Whos got MicroDicer/Dicer vs. LiveSlice....
whos got them both or used them both or knows them both, how do you compare the two???

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:45 am

Well, MicroDicer is just like Phatmatik. You're dealing with one (rather short) track/loop at a time.
It's a great, cheap alternative to ReCycle and Phatmatik but in no way comparable to LiveSlice.

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:53 am

peejunk wrote:I nominate Fruity Loops. You record a sample into the audio. You trim it with a handy trim knob. You Ctrl+E edit it further. You drag&drop it into a Fruity Slicer channel. You edit the slices on tyniest waveform display screen you ever saw (ok, so that bit isn't that great but there are BeatCreator and BeatSlicer). Or, you can load it into Granulizer for some timestretching/granulation. It will try to autodetect slice points and adjust granulation/timestretch. You can do wild things with it.

It is such a good slicer in FL, its just a pain in the ass running FL under rewire in Sonar

auto_moment · Post by **auto_moment** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:54 am

I tried microdicer, but found it a little buggy. liveslice is a different story. never had a crash in live5, probably well coded.I think theres 24 slots to trigger 24 different sliced beats, each one assigned to a single key on yr keyboard. great midi control,lots of editing parameters and reordering functions all done on the fly from midi. Load loop from drive or record in, all quantized and sliced automatically. About uk30 i think. I know of no other product in this affordable price range. like I said Its STABLE, in live anyway and live wont accept dodgy vstis.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:05 pm

can you zoom in on a wavform in fruitys slicer, and can you slice manualy?

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:57 pm

where are all the fLstudio slicer/samplist users, ...and please don't say looptalk, i prefer this environment.

bermudagold · Post by **bermudagold** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:11 pm

this must be a real subjective workflow thing.....cause you can highlight from the waveform view of a session view clip and dump into impulse without going to arrangement view ...no?....yeah its only eight slices, buit how many do you need from one loop?....need more use another impulse instance...you'll just have to play that second eight slices separately while listening to the first eight....works enough for me to not spend money on a slicer...liveslice is nice but its editing parameters per slice dont seem to be as exstensive as impulse?....to me the only advantage is can play more slices at one time but how many fingers u got?....i dont see the ROI yet...and as for guru...great plug if that functionality waas missing but dont get the fuss...i dont really want the plug guessing my slices for me,...especially if it doesnt work well which apparently many users are griping about...and i believe there is no manual slice mode to make corrections to its algorithm?...and if u dont need the onboard effects or the step sequencer...i dont...session view IS a step sequencer...so except for the midi groove template thing,..doesnt guru just become a drum sampler then?....for a very high price...again dont see the ROI in use with ableton....different workflows i guess

paradiddle · Post by **paradiddle** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:34 pm

maybe shortcircuit 2 will be something to look out for:

http://www.vemberaudio.se/download/sc2.png

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:42 pm

that shortcircuit 2 does look like something to look out for! how much is it gonna be?

bermudagold · Post by **bermudagold** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:54 pm

ok...well it seems auto slicing is the thing....well this has auto detection and looks like unlimited number assigned to as many keys as you have....caveat is no actual sampling, have to load wav,and not a lot of editing per slice,....but has timestretch and 12 outs! for free

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1905.html

manual

http://www.sknote.it/download.htm

and i believe you need to You need to copy two support files in your ..\Windows\System32 directory. Download the support files from the download page and look at readme.txt:

doesnt devine machine have a lot of the functionality being requested too?....anyway peace

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:50 pm

COOL bermudagold, i'm gonna check this out tonight, thanks for the heads up my man, yeah I love Live 5 to death but they had no business not including a Live-esk audio slicer. I'm almost certain in version 6 they will.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:55 pm

Traks is a neat thing, but I'm pretty sure it can only handle mono wav files.

Samplist Unite and Be Heard :) We Need A Super Slicer