How Are You Using LiveSlice/ or FL-Studio Slicer sampler
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- KVRAF
- 1972 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
i'm listening, learning, and appreciate it.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
I use Liveslice a lot these days.
I do most of my stuff in Audiomulch. The blank-slate modular style of Mulch meshes well with Liveslice, since Liveslice fills in as a structured phrase sequencer, and Mulch makes it easy to swap in new instruments/sound sources to sample and makes multiouts really easy to use.
I'll often capture several bits, load up several loops and beats and then create track arrangements out of them. Since Mulch doesn't have a MIDI sequencer, I tend to play it in a loop mode, and occasionally will do live MIDI triggering.
The track arrangements work great, since you can copy one over to another arrangement slot, create a variation on the original and swap between them in sync. Liveslice is much more like a phrase sequencer than like an offline slicing tool like ReCycle. Its slicing is really designed to serve its re-sequencing abilities rather than just slicing up loops you have around.
Here's a quick example of what I'm talking about. This clip was done in about 10/15 minutes in Liveslice. I sampled the bass sound directly in Liveslice, then created an arrangement from the three notes I captured, with a little pitch adjustment. I then loaded a drum loop in the next sample slot, created a second track and manually arranged hits. Then created a duplicate arrangement, used the random functions to create variations, then some quick editing to fine tune it. I then created a third arrangement with a short fill. Once it starts playing, I just mix between each arrangement. It isn't the most stellar musical example in the world, but it should give you a good idea of how Liveslice was used in it.
Another great function in Liveslice is the ease at which you can swap between source samples and mix them in the arranger. In a matter of seconds you can slice a loop and replace one hit with a sound taken from another loop. You can also swap source loops, so that your arrangement will keep the rhythm/sequence you've just created, but will swap all the sounds instantly.
It might not cover 100% of anyone's sampling needs yet, but it is a very deep arrangement tool/instrument.
I do most of my stuff in Audiomulch. The blank-slate modular style of Mulch meshes well with Liveslice, since Liveslice fills in as a structured phrase sequencer, and Mulch makes it easy to swap in new instruments/sound sources to sample and makes multiouts really easy to use.
I'll often capture several bits, load up several loops and beats and then create track arrangements out of them. Since Mulch doesn't have a MIDI sequencer, I tend to play it in a loop mode, and occasionally will do live MIDI triggering.
The track arrangements work great, since you can copy one over to another arrangement slot, create a variation on the original and swap between them in sync. Liveslice is much more like a phrase sequencer than like an offline slicing tool like ReCycle. Its slicing is really designed to serve its re-sequencing abilities rather than just slicing up loops you have around.
Here's a quick example of what I'm talking about. This clip was done in about 10/15 minutes in Liveslice. I sampled the bass sound directly in Liveslice, then created an arrangement from the three notes I captured, with a little pitch adjustment. I then loaded a drum loop in the next sample slot, created a second track and manually arranged hits. Then created a duplicate arrangement, used the random functions to create variations, then some quick editing to fine tune it. I then created a third arrangement with a short fill. Once it starts playing, I just mix between each arrangement. It isn't the most stellar musical example in the world, but it should give you a good idea of how Liveslice was used in it.
Another great function in Liveslice is the ease at which you can swap between source samples and mix them in the arranger. In a matter of seconds you can slice a loop and replace one hit with a sound taken from another loop. You can also swap source loops, so that your arrangement will keep the rhythm/sequence you've just created, but will swap all the sounds instantly.
It might not cover 100% of anyone's sampling needs yet, but it is a very deep arrangement tool/instrument.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1972 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
good one shamann, and thanks
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
I use The FL Slicer to slice up waves. Then I use those waves to make music.
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- KVRAF
- 4314 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1972 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
but how do you zoom in on the samples, and how do you slice manualy, and why is there this god-forsaken pause after you move the sensitivity sliders that seems to last forever.
basicly how do you fine tune your slicing in FL
basicly how do you fine tune your slicing in FL
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
The Chase wrote:I use The FL Slicer to slice up waves. Then I use those waves to make music.
Igor 4000 wrote:I use the FL Slicer to slice up drumloops, and then create my own patterns with those sounds.
Wow, that's some riveting stuff. You Fruity guys sure are an imaginative lot.SampleScience wrote:Same thing here as The Chase & Igor4000!
Anybody going to tell us why they like it, or point out some advanced functions? I tested it out recently and just couldn't get behind it. But then I feel that way about Fruity in general, so I'd like to hear what the Fruity people have to say about it.
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- KVRAF
- 2249 posts since 6 May, 2003 from rat city au
You don't, unless you've bought the add-on progstale bread wrote:but how do you zoom in on the samples
You either slice externally (in, say, Sound Forge) or you right-click the wave in slicer and choose split slice (or something like that)and how do you slice manualy
It's reanalysing the wave (and restretching it if needs be)and why is there this god-forsaken pause after you move the sensitivity sliders that seems to last forever.
If you just have the slicer gen without the add-on prog, you're pretty limited in what you can do (although you can make it work).basicly how do you fine tune your slicing in FL
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- KVRian
- 509 posts since 15 Jul, 2002 from NYC
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
We all probably had such simular answers because it's obvious. I use the slicer for slicing needsshamann wrote:The Chase wrote:I use The FL Slicer to slice up waves. Then I use those waves to make music.Igor 4000 wrote:I use the FL Slicer to slice up drumloops, and then create my own patterns with those sounds.Wow, that's some riveting stuff. You Fruity guys sure are an imaginative lot.SampleScience wrote:Same thing here as The Chase & Igor4000!
Anybody going to tell us why they like it, or point out some advanced functions? I tested it out recently and just couldn't get behind it. But then I feel that way about Fruity in general, so I'd like to hear what the Fruity people have to say about it.
But the FL Slicer is hella bad-A because of how instant it is and how it is perfectly integrated into FL's workflow. It's just a right-click to split where you want (the small window is a bit icky at first but if you work with it a bit you will master splitting it quite accurately). Also how you can drag the samples into their own sampler channels for further drum programming capabilities. The built-in stretching is a plus, too.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
Funny enough, I think that's a big reason why I could never get behind Fruity, all those damned small windows and controls. So the slicer just slices then? Makes sense since that's what it says on the tin, but I hoped for a little something on the side.The Chase wrote:...the small window is a bit icky at first...
@stale bread: didn't you say you use Live? Doesn't that cover a lot of your slicing needs already? And when are we going to hear some more tracks in the Cafe?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1972 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
yeah i Use Live, and if it had a Slicer that integrated with it the way FL slicer does in fruity i'd probably never post about slicing, but when i get into the zone of what i'm working on i get tired of splitting tracks in Lives arranger view, , I want automatic/manual slicing and I want complete sample editing slicing and rearranging right in the clip properties window. this should of been there since version 1, for me Live is the greatest sampler I ever used it just fits me very well, why they haven't implemented the greatest slicer is beyond me. The clip properties window is already resizable, the warp markers should serve as slice markers, and we should be able to crop,trim, and truncate without having to hit the edit button and open up some other app.
and them there cafe tracks are just around the bend
FL Users: ok i see how you manualy slice but lets say you didn't slice it perfectly but close, afterwards how do you fine tune it?
and them there cafe tracks are just around the bend
FL Users: ok i see how you manualy slice but lets say you didn't slice it perfectly but close, afterwards how do you fine tune it?
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
stale bread wrote:and them there cafe tracks are just around the bend
The other two you posted sit on my portable player, listen to them often.
Incidentally, the slice markers in Liveslice are super easy to work with. You can set as many as you want up to 256, zoom in and simply drag them around.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1972 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
I'm going to get Liveslice for sure, been meaning to for the last couple of days, the price makes it a no brainer but i'm the type that likes to exhaust myself in research before i make a move.
hey man thanks for listening to those tracks.
hey man thanks for listening to those tracks.