1.4 beta and development thread

[Soarer]

I like to double the lenght of the tracks to make longer tracks. At this time my only option is to double the slice number in each track and set my host(SX2) to half the tempo.

Sorry I had not tried to increase the beat number which makes a longer track. So then it's only the zoom in track i'd really be hoping for in the next update.

I would also really appreciate if I could expand the gui horizontally.

[shamann]

Using 1.4 in Audiomulch, anytime I try to load a wavefile in Mulch's loop player contraption when Liveslice is open, Mulch crashes with an EZeroDivide error.

Further to this, when trying to render offline, I get:

VST Plugin Crash Information
File Name: C:\Program Files\Steinberg\Vstplugins\Samplers\Livelab Liveslice\LiveSlice.dll
File Size: 719360 bytes
File Creation Time: Friday, July 29, 2005, 2:35:43 AM
Exception Code: c000008e (FLT_DIVIDE_BY_ZERO)
Fault Address: 10049508 01:00048508 LiveSlice.dll
Thread Id: 132 (GUI thread)

[DarkStar]

Essentially I have a 1 bar loop of 4 beats. This is split into 16 slices. I assign 32 beats to an arranger and then lock the loop to a track which repeats the loop 8 times (128 events).

Next a load a single hit sample but reduce the number of slices to 1 and assign that to another track. That one gave me 64 events. At this point the graphics seem to slow down slightly, a bit of a delay in clicking stuff. I glance at the CPU monitor and it shows no CPU hit at all.

I can confirm this, with a 2-bar loop and a single hit. And Arrangements tracks of 32 beats. The GUI becomes very slow and jerky

[DarkStar]

Also,
When I load a single drum hit (it's a Bongo - 8KB only)
I get this:

And the playback is distorted and out of time,
And the GUI slows down

Ohm, I have emailed the sample and screenshot to you.

[spuddle]

Good job Dark,
Let us iron out those nasty bugs!

[DarkStar]

R.A.W BR 3
Oops, I did not do the test correctly. it is fixed.

But I cannot get dragging a Slice onto an existing Event to replace the event:

- add 2 loops
- use [lock to loop] to put the first loop on the first track, deleted some events
- turn on [locate]
- drag Slice from Slicer over an existing Event in Arranger

The original event is not replaced.
- the dragged slice is inserted after the "last touched" event or in the space that was most recently emptied
- if the track is full of events, the dragged slice goes "underneath" the "last touched" event but it does not playback, the existing one does

RAW BR 5
Yep, I get what R.A.W said
- when [locate] is on, and you select a paramter,
- you have to click once to deactivaste [locate],
- then the parameters work.
It would be better if [locate] were deactivated automatically when a parameter is selected.

[Soarer]

I think I saw posts somewhere that mentioned copying of events. Is that possible? Is it within a track?

In the version history for 1.4 it says:

1. select a range of events

2. change parameters on all selected events simultaneously

How do I select a range of events?

I think the manual and Command Guide needs to be updated as they are rather old and lacking IMO.

[tl]

I think I saw posts somewhere that mentioned copying of events. Is that possible? Is it within a track?

In the version history for 1.4 it says:

1. select a range of events

2. change parameters on all selected events simultaneously

How do I select a range of events?

I think the manual and Command Guide needs to be updated as they are rather old and lacking IMO.

Right-click first, Shift-Right-click last: voila...
...Basically the same shortkeys as in windoze explorer.

And, Jacob:
Thanks for these handy new features.

Cheers,
tl

[Soarer]

? -Right clicking is previewing the slice! You mean Ctrl+left click, right? That works very well, completely like explorer. I hold Ctrl down while selecting/deselecting different events. Left click first event and Shift+left click last event makes a range of events.

But when I have a range of selected events and want to change the pitch parameter for example for all selected events, how is it done? It deselects the other events as soon as I click on one event to change the parameter.

BTW I found that pressing Alt while selecting an event locates the event to the slicer. Very nice!

Still I cannot copy or paste events within a track.

[tl]

? -Right clicking is previewing the slice! You mean Ctrl+left click, right? That works very well, completely like explorer.

Left, right!



tl.

[JamminFool]

hi,
apologies if this is known (or intentional), but:

the rec panel hides the undo button.

[DarkStar]

Here's a few things [from v1.4.0]:

FR010 the "locate missing loops" window
- can the right hand end of the file name be shown in the window?
- currently it shows the start of the path, from C:\ . . . onwards

FR011 "Volume parameter values"
- can the Volume parameter values be shown in -dB

FR012 Copy selected events to a track in a different Arrangement
- currently, Copy and Paste only works within an Arrangement.


Q001 "Snap to zero crossing re-enabled"
- I am not too sure about this, when does it happen?
- Is it only when you use the Sensitivity control to slice a loop?


BR010 Colour is always saved
- the current colour setting is always saved in the LiveSlice.ini file whne you close LS

BR011 Ctrl+right-click an event no longer works?
- Ctrl+right-clicking an event used to remove the slice but keeps the empty event
- this no longer works
- is this by design or a BR?

BR012 Selecting an Event moves it
Previously I reported

BR 02? moving Event by LMB
In the Arrange, with Snap on, if you LMB within an event, it Snaps to that position.
- I think this is a reasonable action.

- I now think that this is not the desired action.
- if the event is not quantized, then you cannot select it without it moving
- you should be able to click anywhere on an event to select it
- if you want to move it, just drag it

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Any thoughts?

[Soarer]

- currently, Copy and Paste only works within an Arrangement.

How is it done? Do you mean copy events/slices?

[DarkStar]

yep, sure do
- select the events (click or Ctrl+click)
- Ctrl+c
- select the desitnation track (click in the empty part of the track header)
- Ctrl+v

That should do it

[Maniah]

1.41 beta 1

As far as display updates it's working like a charm. I would have the random feature going while locating slices. I would adjust the BPMs as i page up/down the arrangement etc. etc. Working well for me.


The only minor thing i noticed is when altering the pitch in lock mode, only the 1st slice, along with the play locater, respond visually to a "+" pitch range (where they divide in color 1/2 light and 1/2 dark). If i alter each slice indivdually, they visually respond fine.

Furthermore I've had a bugreport about crashes when copying text from the color text box on the setting page and then clicking in another app - please try to reproduce this in your host as well.

Could not reproduce this. I am using the latest beta of Ext. and also tried it within Bidule.



BR1: If I stop playback & then resume, only the page up/down keyboard shortcuts work. In order to have key shortcuts for the envelopes to work, I have to click on an envelope with the mouse .

BR2: Actually, not sure if this is a bug or if something changed but i can no longer toggle arrangements with the mouse. I can only toggle via MIDI.


That's it for now. I'll play around some more later.


One FR: Is it possible to implement an EXT feature for the settings page where CNTRL/LMB (or whatever) activates a MIDI learn for CC/Note settings? This beats scrolling through notes/cc numbers