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asseca · Post by **asseca** » Sun May 07, 2006 7:47 am

in some cases "the hi-z input of the sound card" may not have enough gain, then you need a DI-box or other external pre-amp ...

FrettedSynth · Post by **FrettedSynth** » Sun May 07, 2006 11:20 am

spuddle wrote:I'm plugging the guitar straight into the HI-Z input of my soundcard. The input goes up to about 20-25% max.

The output volume doesn't have enough gain I find so maybe need to run in some sort of maximisers after the amp?

Any tips would be appreciated.

Yeh! a limiter would help a lot to even off different tones, but I was never really fond of limiters for guitar

they seem to suck life from it.

If you need more output gain? use the post compressor! turn the ratio all the way down and the threshold all the way up (the compressor will have no effect) then you can use the output volume of the compressor it provides an extra 20db.
Fretted Synth

FrettedSynth · Post by **FrettedSynth** » Sun May 07, 2006 11:58 am

Oh yeh!

Just had to ask? What you all thought of the palm mute chugga-chugga from this thing? Me I'm having a blast with it

with presets from clean right up to the heavy distorted it don't crap out.

Fretted Synth

metalifuxx · Post by **metalifuxx** » Sun May 07, 2006 3:37 pm

The response and feel of this sim is above any other ampsim I've tried. Commercial developers should take note. I played with this for a good 3+ hours yesterday goin through presets and tweaking them, also trying cab impulses with voxengo boogex and disabling the cab on this just to try to get some other tones. The tone is so clear, even on high gain with full chords, something I haven't achieved with any other sim also. Also used a Boss OD pedal goin into my interface as well as a few other Overdrive plugins with good results. And the wah/autowah schematic, that's just amazing how it responds to the input. I like the cleans alot too, although volume is a bit low. Had to make sure the signal was hitting the M-aduio Mobile pre when I adjusted volume settings and input tube warmth gain on the guitar and behringer, or the tone just didn't cut through on FreeAmp.

My setup is a '93 Gibson Les Paul Standard, goin into a Behringer Tubeultragain MIC200 pre/DI, into M-Audio Mobile Pre. Using Live 5 as a host, on a Pentium 1.7ghz. CPU was good compared to the ver. 1 that wouldn't even run without freezing/crashing the host. Typical presets hovered between 35-50%, and lots of effects ran it well into 70%. I think a few presets caused Live to crash, but thats on a 1.7ghz and Live for that matter. So it should run awesome on a newer computer with real low latency. Still responded fine on the Low latency setting on the M-audio Mobile Pre, with same buffer settings as ASIO in Live's plugins setup.

Yes, and some very good metal crunch chugga-chugga tones. The dirty clean crunch tones are also worth mentioning.

At first listen it doesn't sound like it aims to emulates any certain amp, but with proper tweaking and other plugins/cabs you can get it to sound like a clean jazz amp, a cranked Vox, to a Rectifier. The main thing is it sits perfect in a mix.

warren · Post by **warren** » Sun May 07, 2006 4:43 pm

Wow, high praise! I'm salivating to get this now. From the talk it sounds like the best thing since simulanalog.

spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:13 pm

asseca wrote:in some cases "the hi-z input of the sound card" may not have enough gain, then you need a DI-box or other external pre-amp ...

I suspect this is the main problem. If I push up the gain too much then noise becomes a real problem, this does seem to be a problem for many amp sims clean channels though. The gain channels I can usually leave the input gain knob on the soundcard at zero.

FrettedSynth wrote:
spuddle wrote:I'm plugging the guitar straight into the HI-Z input of my soundcard. The input goes up to about 20-25% max.

The output volume doesn't have enough gain I find so maybe need to run in some sort of maximisers after the amp?

Any tips would be appreciated.
Yeh! a limiter would help a lot to even off different tones, but I was never really fond of limiters for guitar they seem to suck life from it.

If you need more output gain? use the post compressor! turn the ratio all the way down and the threshold all the way up (the compressor will have no effect) then you can use the output volume of the compressor it provides an extra 20db.
Fretted Synth

I wasn't touching the compressor much so this could be a good way to go about getting more volume. I shall try it out soon.

This really is a gem of an aim-sim though, it's gonna be getting a lot of use here once I've had a chance to get real intimate with the controls.

Thanks again.

FrettedSynth · Post by **FrettedSynth** » Sun May 07, 2006 9:30 pm

metalifuxx wrote:The response and feel of this sim is above any other ampsim I've tried. Commercial developers should take note. I played with this for a good 3+ hours yesterday goin through presets and tweaking them, also trying cab impulses with voxengo boogex and disabling the cab on this just to try to get some other tones. The tone is so clear, even on high gain with full chords, something I haven't achieved with any other sim also. Also used a Boss OD pedal goin into my interface as well as a few other Overdrive plugins with good results. And the wah/autowah schematic, that's just amazing how it responds to the input. I like the cleans alot too, although volume is a bit low. Had to make sure the signal was hitting the M-aduio Mobile pre when I adjusted volume settings and input tube warmth gain on the guitar and behringer, or the tone just didn't cut through on FreeAmp.

My setup is a '93 Gibson Les Paul Standard, goin into a Behringer Tubeultragain MIC200 pre/DI, into M-Audio Mobile Pre. Using Live 5 as a host, on a Pentium 1.7ghz. CPU was good compared to the ver. 1 that wouldn't even run without freezing/crashing the host. Typical presets hovered between 35-50%, and lots of effects ran it well into 70%. I think a few presets caused Live to crash, but thats on a 1.7ghz and Live for that matter. So it should run awesome on a newer computer with real low latency. Still responded fine on the Low latency setting on the M-audio Mobile Pre, with same buffer settings as ASIO in Live's plugins setup.

Yes, and some very good metal crunch chugga-chugga tones. The dirty clean crunch tones are also worth mentioning.

At first listen it doesn't sound like it aims to emulates any certain amp, but with proper tweaking and other plugins/cabs you can get it to sound like a clean jazz amp, a cranked Vox, to a Rectifier. The main thing is it sits perfect in a mix.

Thanks

Michigan native how could I leave you out of the testing

Hope to meet some more of you KVRian's I thought I was alone here in the state, but am learning different

The amp will only get better from here! now the structure is cleaned up and ready for more and more and more and......

Peace
Fretted Synth

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Mon May 08, 2006 2:37 am

I would like to see an EQ bypass/on/off thing. Is one there already?

matthewjumps · Post by **matthewjumps** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:44 am

i hope eventually you make it so we can change the order of the effects...im sure in synthedit it would be hard to do...

Newbie Brad · Post by **Newbie Brad** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:03 pm

Works and sounds better now for sure. Make the switcheable eqs midi controllable!

funkychickendance · Post by **funkychickendance** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:24 pm

I know the beta testers are probably thrashing 1.5 with real guitars, but I'd be interested to know how it performs with a good quality sim like Revitar 2.0? Anyone? There's a free demo at the site...

/funxi

asseca · Post by **asseca** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:30 pm

funkychickendance wrote:I know the beta testers are probably thrashing 1.5 with real guitars, but I'd be interested to know how it performs with a good quality sim like Revitar 2.0? Anyone? There's a free demo at the site...

I have been testing Revitar 2.0 with FreeAmpSE 1.5, and it works VERY well with Revitar 2.0 ...

funkychickendance · Post by **funkychickendance** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:44 pm

asseca wrote:
funkychickendance wrote:I know the beta testers are probably thrashing 1.5 with real guitars, but I'd be interested to know how it performs with a good quality sim like Revitar 2.0? Anyone? There's a free demo at the site...
I have been testing Revitar 2.0 with FreeAmpSE 1.5, and it works VERY well with Revitar 2.0 ...

That is very good news, cos I found I had a lot of CPU and peaking issues with 1.1. I'm one of those wackos who likes real and virtual guitars, simply because of the incredibly close voicings you can manage with a piano keyboard. Oh yeah, and the blistering-speed arpeggios and hammer-ons...

/funxi

FrettedSynth · Post by **FrettedSynth** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:20 pm

matthewjumps wrote:i hope eventually you make it so we can change the order of the effects...im sure in synthedit it would be hard to do...

No! The order will not be user definable, but in the next version you will be able to place the Delay, Chorus and Phase shifter to be pre or post amp with a fixed order.
All FX before the amp will be mono and the post amp version will be stereo.

Grymmjack-No bypass of the eq is provided, guess I could look into it for the new UI version

Plus there are plans to add more eq types

Thanks all, no bugs yet

Fretted Synth

Synesthesiac · Post by **Synesthesiac** » Mon May 08, 2006 7:02 pm

Thanks all, no bugs yet

I really liked v.1, if you still need more testers pm me.

FreeAmpSE update 1.5 what do you want?