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FrettedSynth wrote:
matthewjumps wrote:i hope eventually you make it so we can change the order of the effects...im sure in synthedit it would be hard to do...
No! The order will not be user definable, but in the next version you will be able to place the Delay, Chorus and Phase shifter to be pre or post amp with a fixed order.
All FX before the amp will be mono and the post amp version will be stereo.

Grymmjack-No bypass of the eq is provided, guess I could look into it for the new UI version :D Plus there are plans to add more eq types :D

Thanks all, no bugs yet 8)
Fretted Synth
Hrm. If it wouldn't be too hard could it be added (eq bypass) -- The reason isn't to ignore the EQ in the plug but to toggle things in workflow iteratively -- I like to turn everything off, then only turn on what I need when I get to that stage of patch creation. For example, turn everything off, pick amp, pick cab, adjust the mic placement, then add some distortion, chorus, etc, then if it's still not good EQ :)

Just my preference. The main thing that bothers me about it now is that if I like a preset, but want to modify it, I have to cycle through the EQ Pages, and turn things to neutral position so they dont affect the outcome. There is no "reset" function that I saw? If there was that would be good too since it is the same thing (except for maybe CPU usage) ...

The new design should contain everything within 1 click/drag as much as possible without pages. Like we discussed there will be more pedals instead of pagers for the pedals, etc, but am thinking maybe the EQ could be handled better than our plan currently?

Hrm.

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having the manual accessable from the GUI is always useful :)
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grymmjack wrote:
Hrm. If it wouldn't be too hard could it be added (eq bypass) -- The reason isn't to ignore the EQ in the plug but to toggle things in workflow iteratively -- I like to turn everything off, then only turn on what I need when I get to that stage of patch creation. For example, turn everything off, pick amp, pick cab, adjust the mic placement, then add some distortion, chorus, etc, then if it's still not good EQ :)

Just my preference. The main thing that bothers me about it now is that if I like a preset, but want to modify it, I have to cycle through the EQ Pages, and turn things to neutral position so they dont affect the outcome. There is no "reset" function that I saw? If there was that would be good too since it is the same thing (except for maybe CPU usage) ...

The new design should contain everything within 1 click/drag as much as possible without pages. Like we discussed there will be more pedals instead of pagers for the pedals, etc, but am thinking maybe the EQ could be handled better than our plan currently?

Hrm.
There really is no per-se neutral possition of the eq! Many things in the way this amp is designed stray far off of what a taught amp designer would do (I have spoken with many, they laugh) :) But I'm not a taught amp builder! so I do what I feel in the end sounds best. But yes a bypass could be provided, just let me know what other switching methods you think we should use :)

Joe

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man this plugin is beautiful i was just using a acoustic soundfont and it sounds so good - i have not noticed any errors - not even any pops or cracks (I got an ok CPU tho - P4 HT 3.0GHz) its so awesome....

on thing - is there a way to tempo sync "Rate" knobs on the delay, phaser etc?

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Ooh! Tempo Syncing to host would be nice!

--Sean

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i noticed a sync button which has a host tempo option - what exactly does that control?

ok i worked it out - that is odd way to do it having the tremolo and delay tempo linked - why not just make the tremolo and delays speed/time knobs have a little "sync" button next, which when on restricts the knobs values to the standard 1 thru to 1/32...

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grymmjack wrote:The reason isn't to ignore the EQ in the plug but to toggle things in workflow iteratively -- I like to turn everything off, then only turn on what I need when I get to that stage of patch creation. For example, turn everything off, pick amp, pick cab, adjust the mic placement, then add some distortion, chorus, etc, then if it's still not good EQ :)
I agree i work exactly the same way...all VST should have a way of setting everything to neutral/off quickly...some are good they have a "Basic/Default" internal preset say as the first one...it should be standard tho i dont know why a lot of programmers dont do it...
grymmjack wrote: The new design should contain everything within 1 click/drag as much as possible without pages. Like we discussed there will be more pedals instead of pagers for the pedals, etc, but am thinking maybe the EQ could be handled better than our plan currently?
I agree here too - make it as up-front and accesible as possible - my design lecturer always used to pick on us for making important content inaccessible with scrollers/unneccessary pages etc...

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matthewjumps wrote:i noticed a sync button which has a host tempo option - what exactly does that control?

ok i worked it out - that is odd way to do it having the tremolo and delay tempo linked - why not just make the tremolo and delays speed/time knobs have a little "sync" button next, which when on restricts the knobs values to the standard 1 thru to 1/32...
I think it's up there because they are related controls and he ran out of room on the pedals.

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matthewjumps wrote:
grymmjack wrote:The reason isn't to ignore the EQ in the plug but to toggle things in workflow iteratively -- I like to turn everything off, then only turn on what I need when I get to that stage of patch creation. For example, turn everything off, pick amp, pick cab, adjust the mic placement, then add some distortion, chorus, etc, then if it's still not good EQ :)
I agree i work exactly the same way...all VST should have a way of setting everything to neutral/off quickly...some are good they have a "Basic/Default" internal preset say as the first one...it should be standard tho i dont know why a lot of programmers dont do it...
grymmjack wrote: The new design should contain everything within 1 click/drag as much as possible without pages. Like we discussed there will be more pedals instead of pagers for the pedals, etc, but am thinking maybe the EQ could be handled better than our plan currently?
I agree here too - make it as up-front and accesible as possible - my design lecturer always used to pick on us for making important content inaccessible with scrollers/unneccessary pages etc...
:) Good design is obvious when it's achieved if you aren't braindead when you are testing/using/designing -- if it's difficult for you to understand it as a designer, it's going to be difficult as a user :) If it's difficult to use as a user, ...

For sure we're trying to beat IK and NI here. This is a chance to chew on and kick some big-dog asses, and you can count on it that the UI will try it's best (and I will take every step needed) to do just that. IMO the sound is already much more playable and realistic, even if it doesn't have all the crazy presets/modular design/saturated with effects. Let's humble those greedy IK/NI f**ks.

Dongle this, motherf**ker!

<braveheart>F R E E E D O M !</braveheart>

:P

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grymmjack wrote:[

For sure we're trying to beat IK and NI here. This is a chance to chew on and kick some big-dog asses, and you can count on it that the UI will try it's best (and I will take every step needed) to do just that. IMO the sound is already much more playable and realistic, even if it doesn't have all the crazy presets/modular design/saturated with effects. Let's humble those greedy IK/NI f**ks.

Dongle this, motherf**ker!

<braveheart>F R E E E D O M !</braveheart>

:P
:hihi: :hihi: :lol: :D :tu:

/funxi
Every Potemkin village needs its idiot savant

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grymm i like the way you think - "dongle this" was awesome

i am so lookin forward to ur design...

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matthewjumps wrote:i noticed a sync button which has a host tempo option - what exactly does that control?

ok i worked it out - that is odd way to do it having the tremolo and delay tempo linked - why not just make the tremolo and delays speed/time knobs have a little "sync" button next, which when on restricts the knobs values to the standard 1 thru to 1/32...
Yep! Grymmjack hit the nail on the head :) In order to setup on the FX I would have had to change the UI :( Man you have no idea how making even the crap GUI's I've made kills me :oops: So with the chance of having grymmjack do it right, I figured I was best off to wait to do those types of things as it take me very long to do graphics and the thing would never get released :)
No host sync was provided on the chorus or phaser because to me they are more of a feel FX then a mechanical in time thing :oops: But thing can change from here? One thing I want for the phaser and eventual flanger is manual sweep so you can automate the sweep how ever you want?

And come on gang be nice :hihi: But yes I do like the fact of no DONGLE :hihi:

Peace
Fretted Synth

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Is it too late to help test the amp? Im sure i could give me guitar a twang with it if I were allowed. :D How does it sound on basses btw?

WoJ

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WoJ wrote:Is it too late to help test the amp? Im sure i could give me guitar a twang with it if I were allowed. :D How does it sound on basses btw?

WoJ
PM will be sent with link :)

:hihi: Played bass for 30 years and still have not taken it from the case to try in FreeAmp :oops: I guess it should do OK as a bass sim? also that is something I want to add to the amp in the future.

Fretted Synth

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I have a dusty old fender p-bass downstairs too that I could test with. Though by now the strings are probably rotten :) Ever get hit with a snapped bass string! OUCH!

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