KVR Audio

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:18 pm

AlanB wrote:You can if you use Midix.

You have options (for example) to set the Fret Down Action to "none". You have to remember though that you can't "Hammer-On" with this setting.

Hope that helps.

AlanB

It does help, and I did try that. I am confused with the way the program works...

Do I need to use a loopback MIDI controller? I have MIDIYoke installed,..

First my questions:

Does the MIDIX EZGA.hta program have to be open the entire time to keep the settings in effect?
Should I start MIDIX EZGA program before my sequencer or after? Does it matter?
Should I lock the MIDI ports? What does that do anyway?
I know that MIDI is reaching the EZEG because the EG LEDs light when I turn on the different chord modes/scale modes, but it doesn't appear to ever do anything more than this.
Why include MIDI playback in this? What is the purpose?
Am I right assuming that I use the loopback MIDI device in the sequencer?

Please if someone could answer my questions I would appreciate it.

AlanB · Post by **AlanB** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:20 pm

I'm not the expert but perhaps I can help a bit.......

Yes, you do need MIDIYoke or equivalent.
Yes, the .hta program needs to be open all the time.
You need to start the .hta before your sequencer.
I don't know about locking midi ports.
At the top where it says EZ-AG/EG (MIDI IN) select your normal midi port. For example, mine is 09 Delta AP Midi (I'm using an Audiophile 24/96). Where it says Left Split (MIDI OUT) select a Midiyoke port , e.g. 02 MidiyokeNT:1. I suggest at this point you add and save a preset name in .hta. Next, in your sequencer, enable the Midiyoke port as your default midi input. Load up a VSTi and start playing. Any changes you make in .hta should now take effect, e.g. try setting Transpose to +1 Octave.

I don't know about MIDI playback. I thought perhaps you might be able to see midi data as it is generated?

Yes, as I've said above you do use the loopback MIDI device in your sequencer.

AlanB

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:03 pm

AlanB wrote:I'm not the expert but perhaps I can help a bit.......

Yes, you do need MIDIYoke or equivalent.
Yes, the .hta program needs to be open all the time.
You need to start the .hta before your sequencer.
I don't know about locking midi ports.
At the top where it says EZ-AG/EG (MIDI IN) select your normal midi port. For example, mine is 09 Delta AP Midi (I'm using an Audiophile 24/96). Where it says Left Split (MIDI OUT) select a Midiyoke port , e.g. 02 MidiyokeNT:1. I suggest at this point you add and save a preset name in .hta. Next, in your sequencer, enable the Midiyoke port as your default midi input. Load up a VSTi and start playing. Any changes you make in .hta should now take effect, e.g. try setting Transpose to +1 Octave.

I don't know about MIDI playback. I thought perhaps you might be able to see midi data as it is generated?

Yes, as I've said above you do use the loopback MIDI device in your sequencer.

AlanB

Thanks bro. That clears it up

CapnLockheed · Post by **CapnLockheed** » Tue May 09, 2006 6:31 pm

grymmjack wrote:
CapnLockheed wrote:Hey....things I've read here and elsewhere have
convinced me I need an EZ. I agonized over the
choice between AG and EG but, for several reasons
choose the EG. I've ordered one from AMS BestBuy
thru E-Bay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... %3AIT&rd=1

Can't wait to get my mits on it and to try it with
the scripts you guys have been writing. In the meantime I've been creating environments in
Chainer and Bidule for live and studio use.
Glad to be in the club!

Cheers......CL
What reasons did you choose EG over AG?

Sorry for the delay in reply, did'nt see this till now.
I choose the EG for several reasons. The first was purely
aesthetic. I like the wooden electric style body. It looks
and feels a bit less like a toy. That's important to me
for onstage use. The second is a bit less ego based and
I'm glad I went for it. The addition of the whammy bar
makes the EG a lot more expressive and fun to play. Like
a mod wheel it's not something you'd use on every sound
but it's GREAT on some. That being said, if I can find
a good deal on an AG I may pick up one of those as well
as they are apparently better for finger picking. I'm
also thinking of getting a second EG to chop up and customize
to my liking.

Cheers.....CL

spillway · Post by **spillway** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:00 am

Well, I'm late joining the party but I am excited about this thread. I actually made it through all the pages!

I have a very 101-type question here.

I am considering an EZ-AG and was wondering that even though it doesn't come with the MIDI to USB cable, would I be able to purchase this cable to hook it up to USB successfully?

I noticed at least one post mentioning that they had trouble with USB set-up.

What does a regular MIDI set-up connect to the Printer serial port?

Thanks for your help.

Adam

AlanB · Post by **AlanB** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:12 am

spillway wrote:Well, I'm late joining the party but I am excited about this thread. I actually made it through all the pages!

I have a very 101-type question here.

I am considering an EZ-AG and was wondering that even though it doesn't come with the MIDI to USB cable, would I be able to purchase this cable to hook it up to USB successfully?

I noticed at least one post mentioning that they had trouble with USB set-up.

What does a regular MIDI set-up connect to the Printer serial port?

Thanks for your help.

Adam

You normally connect the midi out from the EZ/AG to the midi in on your sound card. What sort of sound card have you got?

AlanB

spillway · Post by **spillway** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:24 am

Thanks for the quick reply.

I have a Realtek High Definition Audio sound card that came with my HP Pavilion a830n. It does not seem to have any midi inputs.

I've been USB with my E-MU 49 key controller.

Does that mean I am out of luck if I want to use EZ/AG?

AlanB · Post by **AlanB** » Thu May 11, 2006 8:23 am

Presumably if you are getting midi from your E-MU 49 key controller into your PC then you should be fine.

If you are in the UK it might be an idea to ring Digital Village (http://www.dv247.com/) for advice, and the cost of a midi to usb cable.

Hope that helps.

AlanB

CapnLockheed · Post by **CapnLockheed** » Thu May 11, 2006 12:15 pm

spillway wrote:Thanks for the quick reply.

I have a Realtek High Definition Audio sound card that came with my HP Pavilion a830n. It does not seem to have any midi inputs.

I've been USB with my E-MU 49 key controller.

Does that mean I am out of luck if I want to use EZ/AG?

AFAIK, there's no simple midi2usb cable. You need a midi
to USB INTERFACE. There are several to choose from. My
EG came with a Yamaha UX16...I thought it sucked, bad
drivers. I sold it and bought an M-Audio UNO, used, cheap
on E-Bay....works great!

Cheers.....CL

spillway · Post by **spillway** » Thu May 11, 2006 3:53 pm

Thanks for your help!

nathankingcole · Post by **nathankingcole** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:59 am

This is my first post to this thread, though I have read it fairly thouroughly. I want to heartily thank Marc and Markleford for their incredible contributions with their application developements for the EZ. I have been working with Marc's app primarily, though I think Markleford's is very cleverly designed as well.
Here's my query for those of you who are having success with the EZ and the apps:
When using the EZ_AG 3 app with my EG and a Behringer FCB1010 foot pedal in Ableton Live 5 I am having some conflicts. I can get the app to work beautifully with the EZ to control HALION and Garritan sample programs as plug in's in LIVE, but I am having trouble being able to use the FCB1010 pedal as a MIDI controller in Live at the same time. I am using the pedal to send control #s
to live for triggering various functions, as well as controlling expressive functions in the sample plug ins. I am running this on a laptop through a Presonus firebox, which has only one MIDI in. I have gotten everything to run with MIDI OX up on the screen, but consistently have the hta app crash, or MIDI OX "lose track of" the main MIDI input.
The application does not crash when I follow the protocol of opening MIDI OX then closing it, then opening the app, then opening my host (Live). With that approach the EZ works great, but no foot pedal. Is it because the hta app filters out the control # information?
Anyone else have something similar to this? I am enamored with the possibilities of the EZ, I play in a touring group and take it on the road with for a silent practice instrument and MIDI contoller for composing, as well as in live looping performance
Thanks for all the contributions eveybody!
nathankingcole

mbncp · Post by **mbncp** » Wed May 17, 2006 8:37 am

Hi,

Using the "EZ_AG 3.hta" app, it should be possible to set the same port for the 'EZ-AG/EG (MIDI IN)' and the 'Foot Pedal (MIDI IN)', and enabling the mapping using the CC function.

BTW. what are you using MIDI OX for ?

Marc

silicon/silicium · Post by **silicon/silicium** » Wed May 17, 2006 8:59 am

hi mbncp, any news about the standalone app you were working on?? I have some warious trouble with htm script on my machine, yours doesn't work at all and mark's one give me some errors when I change the mode

nathankingcole · Post by **nathankingcole** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:32 pm

mbncp wrote:Hi,

Using the "EZ_AG 3.hta" app, it should be possible to set the same port for the 'EZ-AG/EG (MIDI IN)' and the 'Foot Pedal (MIDI IN)', and enabling the mapping using the CC function.

BTW. what are you using MIDI OX for ?

Marc

Marc,
thanks for the reply! Your application with the foot pedal input works as it's designed to quite beautifully; my problem is that I need to send 40 separate CC's into Ableton Live from the Behringer foot pedal. I'm trying to do some fairly complex (at least for me) live looping involving the EZ plus 10 other instruments. The set up I am trying to perfect has the end goal of not needing to touch the computer or use my hands to make adjustments: all the looping and editing is done with my feet so that my hands are free to pick up instruments,play, and mix the various line and mic inputs on an outboard mixer. Is there a way I can modify your application to pass more CC's through? I do not have a programming background (though your pragmatic problem solving for this instrument is inspiring me start learning!)so I have been afraid to try and do any major modifications on my own.
I've been using MIDI OX to split the MIDI from my Presonus Firebox MIDI input into specific channels/filter presets on the various MID Yoke outputs to send to multiple programs . Basically I want to be able to send only channels 1-6 into the "EZ_AG 3.hta" and send the other channels on separate MIDI Yokes. This would be ideal for having the maximum amount of flexibility. I've gotten this to work, but the hta seems to crash at unexpected times:sometimes after making adjuments to the preset, sometimes with no seeming provocation.
I don't know enough about the hta application protocol to understand why there is a conflict with MIDI Ox. Am I comletely off in thinking that I need MIDI Ox to accomplish my goal?
I appologize about the length of the message. Making this $200 toy into a functioning $1200 MIDI guitar has been a very time consuming endeavor, but one that I think is worthwhile (especially because I have more time than money right now!).
Thanks!
nathankingcole

mbncp · Post by **mbncp** » Wed May 17, 2006 7:43 pm

Hi nathankingcole,

I don't see why you get a crash. Did you try with other virtual MIDI ports (LoopBe, Maple,..) ?
Also in MIDI OX, when sending data to the HTA app, you can remove all the channels, system realtime and system common, as we use only the sysex. Also, make sure you are not sending the sysex to the other ports.

Anyway, it should be possible to change the code so you could send the CC's, but do you need to send these CC to different ports (which would be a bit tricky) or sending them to different channels would be enough ?

Marc

I still haven't found the motivation to continue the VST or standalone version, it's just too much (boring) work.

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