KVR Audio

matthewjumps · Post by **matthewjumps** » Sat May 13, 2006 12:55 am

Yea vertical is usually more efficient and accurate.

Btw I hope there will be some kind of display that tells you the value of the knob youre currently tweaking?

@grymm - sweet your gonna put the glowin tubes in

And yea that design with the smaller steps works well its probably the best way to save space as the pedals were a bit large before...

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:08 am

I was gonna say "under-wear???", but I figured it was just a typo.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:15 am

I know, so was I

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:16 am

hehe. Hrm. dunno about status read out, that would be keen! Though it's all pots, so if I design legible pots, that should be good?

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:55 am

bergen wrote:I would vote to lose the reverb and delay effects completely. These are best done in other plugins. Hoverever a classic spring reverb would still be useful. Does the overdrive/distortion include a tubescreamer emulation?

I'm actually against it. install bypass switches for everything so that you don't have to use it if you don't want to. I've been wanting an all-in-one package for years. I don't want to lose features, I want to gain them. Especially flange.

--Sean

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:00 am

grymmjack wrote:
bergen wrote:I would vote to lose the reverb and delay effects completely. These are best done in other plugins. Hoverever a classic spring reverb would still be useful. Does the overdrive/distortion include a tubescreamer emulation?
I don't think the way the signalflow is setup that external verb could do the same thing that the internal verb does, delay too, but don't quote me.

Keep in mind that his goal is an guitar amp/cab/effects simulator -- thus to remove a "staple" effect used in these kinds of rigs, you are also removing quite a bit of potential for variations. Also the idea is to make presets that everyone can share between each other, and when you start externalizing effects, while possibly better or whatever, the presets then lose quite a lot of flexibility.

*edit*: And in hindsight you can always disable intrinsic effects and use outboard ones anyway. With almost all of the CPU given back at the same time from what I understand. So really removing delay and verb would give me more room to work for the UI but that's all it would do.

I would eventually like to see FreeAMP 1.5 be released in a non-pedaled version myself, as I stated, but the guy has been busting his ass for years to get to this pinnacle of achievement and we should give him a chance to take a hiatus Granted we all have great love and ambitions for his work and hope to see lots of things improved. I think it's too bad FrettedSynth doesn't have it's own forum here. Because we need more than 1 monolithic thread to talk about these things. Is it possible to get a forum? He deserves it. He's been working his ass off for years. Or are the developer based forums only reserved for commercial developers?

Anyway Joe will reply to all of this and set our minds straight soon hopefully

I agree with everything you say here. I would probably use the effects version myself.

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:02 am

Mr. Tingle wrote:keep verb and delay in, this way you can get some instant fx presets that can inspire.

In terms of rotary knob control with the mouse, I'd like to say that i much prefer the 'click the knob and move mouse vertical up or down' to rotate the knob clockwise or anti-clockwise. The other method of ttrying to move your mouse in an arc around the pot very clumsey and inacurate.

To have the option to choose which method would of course be the best.

Yes, I prefer linear movement to rotary. Rotary is so fiddly.

--Sean

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:04 am

FrettedSynth wrote:Hello All

Ok! Grymmjack got your mail and seen the layout here If size is not a problem for others I really do like the fact that everything is visable at once?
The eq can be changed just will take a bit longer for the layout part of it, but not a problem.
One thing mentioned is a flanger? Yes there will be one! that is the next project for me (I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, I know I can )
Also there will be a Synth setup(to cover the slowgear asked for) using the guitar\amp for the oscillator! But I think that could be worked out as a paged panel under the pedals?
One other thing is the phaser, chorus, flanger and echo will need an extra switch to make them able to be pre or post amp.

Ok I'll quit yacking for now Have to contact asseca to have him move FreeAmpSE v1.5 to the full site As soon as I hear from him that it is done I will post the release of the new version

And thanks for the help! keep the ideas coming

Peace
Fretted Synth

Great! Thanks! (especially for the flange, since I have pushed so hard for it.)

--Sean

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:09 am

Hey Grym, I know this will probably sound really stupid or anal, but is there any chance you can really go for the realistic look on your graphics? I really love that. Kind of a multicolored, brushed metal, realistic knob, wood paneled beautiful, powerful, wonderful sounding beast.

How about it? Huh?

--Sean

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:13 am

By the way, I love what you did with your last GUI, the PhaseOsc thingie... If your GUI will look anything like that one, I'll love it!

--Sean

matthewjumps · Post by **matthewjumps** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:04 am

hey dont disturb the creative process

grymm is gonna make something kickass im sure....

And like said - FreeAmp should be a total solution - and a flanger, reverb, delay are all integral parts of creating a specific guitar sound - i would be really bummed not to have these included.

As far as "bypass" switches - what are you talkin about audiojunkie? there already there! Dont the big step buttons on the pedals work like bypass switches?

asseca · Post by **asseca** » Sat May 13, 2006 8:02 am

For those who cannot wait for FrettedSynth's announcement:
FreeAmpSE v1.5 now available for download from the www.frettedsynth.com

SRF · Post by **SRF** » Sat May 13, 2006 8:21 am

And very good it is too!!!

P.T. · Post by **P.T.** » Sat May 13, 2006 8:27 am

Will presets we have from ver 1.1 work or even get us in the ballpark for our former sounds? Or, do we start from scratch?

P.T. · Post by **P.T.** » Sat May 13, 2006 9:57 am

I have been playing around a bit.

I'm using Tracktion as host on a win98 machine. Same as when using ver 1.1

The cpu is about half of what ver 1.1 uses. Very good.
The sound seems like ver 1.1 but controls have to be set differently to get the same general sounds.

I haven't played around much with the distorted sounds. It's late and I'm not in a distortion mood.

I was having trouble getting the delay to turn off. I switched it off and it ignored the off switch. The light goes out but the delay remains active.
I turned the chorus on and off a few times and, oddly, the next time I tried turning the delay off it went off.

Switching between delay and reverb again gave trouble. It would not switch.

The green speaker (the last one in the list) doesn't respond the the mic movements.

I'll play some more tommorrow after some sleep.

Oh. I tried loading ver 1.1 pre-sets. I got a message that some of the parameters couldn't be set and then an internal error. But it still loaded and played. With a completely different sound.
Somee of the controls went to where they were supposed to go and others didn't.
The ver 1.1 presets also load with different sounds depending on what the amp settings are before loading the pre-set.

FreeAmpSE update 1.5 what do you want?