Which program do you recommend best for a begginer?
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- KVRer
- 17 posts since 11 May, 2006
I am just entering the world of music, and im not sure where to begin. Im thinking of getting Fl Studio because it seems to be fairly easy to learn, but it seems like Cubase SX is more popular, so ill probably find more tips and tutorials on it. What do you recommend?
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
i recommend trying as many sequencer demos as you can ...
... but if youre an absolute beginner then some you might like to look at are ...
bram bos TUNAFISH
mutools LUNA
mackie TRACKTION
ableton LIVE
slainte
rob
... but if youre an absolute beginner then some you might like to look at are ...
bram bos TUNAFISH
mutools LUNA
mackie TRACKTION
ableton LIVE
slainte
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
no need ... ive moved the thread to the right forum ...gurby22 wrote:Sorry, I posted in the wrong section. Is there anyway to delete a post?
slainte
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- KVRist
- 157 posts since 15 May, 2005
There are some free tutorials for SX in my signiature, if that helps.
As for the choice, it is so difficult to recommend anything, unless folk know what you plan to do with the software. Of course there are the idots who diss a product without even owning it, or having ever tried it, and those who love their toy (whatever that may be) who cannot see that others might actually work in a different manner.
As far as I can see Cubase is great for those that have some recrding experience (or are prepared to learn stuff) in the real world (musicians and mic's and stuff like that), Fruity is an easy to learn app, that can be a good starting point for music creation. Reading this forum whatever you do you must have EXT, as it seems essential to making any kind of music. Funnily enough, the demo did nothing for me at all.
Logic, Sonar, Cubase and many others are capable of making release qaulity recordings. If you have a specific set of needs, then it may be worth letting us know, then each 'camp' can tell you that you must have the same app as them, or (occasionally), some might come up with helpful suggestions.
As for the choice, it is so difficult to recommend anything, unless folk know what you plan to do with the software. Of course there are the idots who diss a product without even owning it, or having ever tried it, and those who love their toy (whatever that may be) who cannot see that others might actually work in a different manner.
As far as I can see Cubase is great for those that have some recrding experience (or are prepared to learn stuff) in the real world (musicians and mic's and stuff like that), Fruity is an easy to learn app, that can be a good starting point for music creation. Reading this forum whatever you do you must have EXT, as it seems essential to making any kind of music. Funnily enough, the demo did nothing for me at all.
Logic, Sonar, Cubase and many others are capable of making release qaulity recordings. If you have a specific set of needs, then it may be worth letting us know, then each 'camp' can tell you that you must have the same app as them, or (occasionally), some might come up with helpful suggestions.
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
definitely tracktion. you should at the very least download the demo and try it. it's the sequencer i've used for the last few years and i absolutely love it.
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India
I wo9uld consider the direction of music you would take to producing... If it's loop based, try Live... if it's lenear arrangements, with a good measure of audio, i would consider Tracktion hard to beat. At both amatuer and pro levels...
Sidhu
Sidhu
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 27 Nov, 2005
http://www.cockos.com/reaper/ (REAPER is a 1 MB download)
http://stashbox.org/uploads/1147577546/REAPER.png
And off you go! As good and easy as it gets. REAPER is freeware until v. 1.0 will be released.
Some people throw Tracktion and Cubase away for it.
http://www.documentwrite.com/reaper/index.html (REAPER setup guide)
http://www.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Re ... umentation
http://stashbox.org/uploads/1147577546/REAPER.png
And off you go! As good and easy as it gets. REAPER is freeware until v. 1.0 will be released.
Some people throw Tracktion and Cubase away for it.
http://www.documentwrite.com/reaper/index.html (REAPER setup guide)
http://www.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Re ... umentation
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- KVRist
- 161 posts since 25 Jul, 2005
I think you should also look at Energy XT. The reason I like it and why I think it is good for a beginner is that it is "visual" in the sense that you can see lines that show the signal flow that connect your instruments, effects, and sequencer. So you can see the difference between say, an insert effect and a send effect. Most hosts hide that, which might make it more difficult to see what your project is doing.
It is very affordable, and even if you choose another host, you'll find the VST version has many uses inside your host of choice.
If you're going to look at FL Studio you should also look at Orion.
All of the hosts mentioned (including eXT) have their various strengths and weaknesses. I think you should expect to spend a month or more trying out the demo versions of these hosts and pick the one that you ultimately find easiest to use and understand. The "best" host is very much a matter of personal style and taste (and is often hotly debated on KvR). The best choice for you depends on how you make music and the types of music you want to make.
It is very affordable, and even if you choose another host, you'll find the VST version has many uses inside your host of choice.
If you're going to look at FL Studio you should also look at Orion.
All of the hosts mentioned (including eXT) have their various strengths and weaknesses. I think you should expect to spend a month or more trying out the demo versions of these hosts and pick the one that you ultimately find easiest to use and understand. The "best" host is very much a matter of personal style and taste (and is often hotly debated on KvR). The best choice for you depends on how you make music and the types of music you want to make.
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- KVRist
- 368 posts since 3 May, 2002 from Canberra, Australia
I find it amazing that people are recommending software that costs many $100s for a self-professed beginner. Wouldn't it make more sense to recommend something a bit cheaper so that beginners can get a feel for the process or even decide if this is a hobby they want to pursue?
For example:
Acid Music Studio ($US 65)
Cubase SE (currently onsale at AudioMidi for $95) (and the SE doesn't stand for SynthEdit
)
Sonar Home Studio 4 ($99)
And of course as has been previously suggested, Tunafish, LUNA or Reaper.
Depends on the style of music you think you might like to make, how much audio recording you're likely to do and platform (although if you're considering FL Studio, that means you're on the PC so I don't need to mention apps like Garageband).
I started on FL Studio and it's not a bad way to dip your toes into the water. It's got some basic built-in instruments and fx, which along with some excellent freeware means you get started without much financial outlay.
I now largely use EnergyXT which, although cheap ($39 Euros I think, but I got it because I was a registered owner of its predecessor, Massiva), is probably not the best beginners tool (but this might change with the upcoming release of XT2
).
Hmm, I'm probably not much help here at all really, am I
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For example:
Acid Music Studio ($US 65)
Cubase SE (currently onsale at AudioMidi for $95) (and the SE doesn't stand for SynthEdit
) Sonar Home Studio 4 ($99)
And of course as has been previously suggested, Tunafish, LUNA or Reaper.
Depends on the style of music you think you might like to make, how much audio recording you're likely to do and platform (although if you're considering FL Studio, that means you're on the PC so I don't need to mention apps like Garageband).
I started on FL Studio and it's not a bad way to dip your toes into the water. It's got some basic built-in instruments and fx, which along with some excellent freeware means you get started without much financial outlay.
I now largely use EnergyXT which, although cheap ($39 Euros I think, but I got it because I was a registered owner of its predecessor, Massiva), is probably not the best beginners tool (but this might change with the upcoming release of XT2
).Hmm, I'm probably not much help here at all really, am I
-s
A suffusion of yellow...
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- KVRist
- 291 posts since 16 Apr, 2006
Perhaps a further consideration is how important it is to use a program that has a reasonably standard interface / look /feel - which for instance might make one wonder about Tracktion, which is rather different. If later on our beginner moved to Pro Tools, he might be puzzled.
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
i think thats a red herring argument though ...Art Evans wrote:Perhaps a further consideration is how important it is to use a program that has a reasonably standard interface / look /feel - which for instance might make one wonder about Tracktion, which is rather different. If later on our beginner moved to Pro Tools, he might be puzzled.
a - could easily be true the other way round too
b - could be true of switch from ANY app to another (unless of course ive missed something and all sequencers work EXACTLY the same way)
c - unfounded assumption that 'standard' equals 'best'
slainte
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Netherlands
c.1 : what is 'standard' in the world of sequencers? has a standard been defined yet?pHz wrote:c - unfounded assumption that 'standard' equals 'best'
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 13 Mar, 2004 from here
get a copy of 'computer music' magazine: on the cover disk it has everything you need to get started in this bottomless pit, including a sequencer, instrument & fx plugs... what your goal/destination is will effect quite drastically the tools you need to get there, so it's a good (cheap) idea to try some ~freebies first, etc, blah, yadda...
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