Sampling old school synths

[paulc_dj]

Hi there,

This is prob a stupid question to you sampling guru's out there and theres prob a very simple answer.

But how do I do the following? : Take an old school synth sound that I have sampled. Put it into a sampler and play it so that it doesn't go all chipmunky on me? I am aware of multi-sampling and key mapping, but that doesn't get me round this problem, cos I obviously don't have the multisamples.

Your help is very much appreciated.



PC


P.S. I saw somebody talking about VA on this forum and the fact that you could take a synth sound and make it your own with the oscillators etc... . Could this be what I am looking for, or is a ROMpler something that I need to consider? Or would Soundfonts help me with this problem?

[C00kie]

Put it into a sampler and play it so that it doesn't go all chipmunky on me?

Just a guess: the sound you've sampled has the filter on high resonance, and you don't want that to be influenced by the key you play.

You can try to sample it again with the synth's filter wide open (and resonance on 0) and redo the filter in the sampler. Most samplers have a filter with ADSR. But that's not the same thing ofcourse...

Try out Synth1 or any other Virtual Analog synth for free. Way easier than using samples if an analog sound is what you're after.

And no, romplers and soundfonts suffer from the same so that won't fix anything.

[paulc_dj]

I have sampled it from a record bud. So I can't change the filters or anything on it at all lol.

PC

[ezra dread]

you have two options then

1. Dont play more than a few notes up/down of original key
2. Copy the sound in a VST synth.

[woodster]

melodyne allows you to transpose a sample over a wide range
before munchkinisation sets in !
Variphrase from Roland is similar and Kontakt also has various modes to help maintain sample quality over large key ranges

[dougsyo]

P.S. I saw somebody talking about VA on this forum and the fact that you could take a synth sound and make it your own with the oscillators etc... . Could this be what I am looking for, or is a ROMpler something that I need to consider? Or would Soundfonts help me with this problem?

A rompler is a musical instrument that comes with a sample bank and may or may not have some capabilities for adding your own sounds. A soundfont is a collection of samples. It sounds like neither of these would use that sample you have.

Not having heard the sample in question, I'd say your best bet is to try a vsti that can resynthesize. That would deal with the "chipmunky". Cameleon is what I have, there's also Vertigo and some of the Whitenoise synths for starters.

Doug

[paulc_dj]

P.S. I saw somebody talking about VA on this forum and the fact that you could take a synth sound and make it your own with the oscillators etc... . Could this be what I am looking for, or is a ROMpler something that I need to consider? Or would Soundfonts help me with this problem?

Not having heard the sample in question, I'd say your best bet is to try a vsti that can resynthesize.

Doug

Any chance you could give us a quick rundown, in simple terms, of how this works?

Thx.


PC

[androidlove]

vertigo
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/578.html

[dougsyo]

Not having heard the sample in question, I'd say your best bet is to try a vsti that can resynthesize.

Any chance you could give us a quick rundown, in simple terms, of how this works?

Effectively, what a resynthesizing synth does is analyze the harmonic and noise structure of a sample and then implement that same harmonic/noise structure across a greater range. The original sample would no longer be used at this point, except as a model or template. Typically this is done in an additive synth - for example Cube, Vertigo or Cameleon.

It's not like "resampling" where the sample is looped and speeded up, slowed down, stretched, sliced or otherwise fiddled-with to make it work at a note other than its own note.

Doug