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Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon May 15, 2006 6:36 pm

bmanic wrote:One thing is certain: It's by far the most sensitive sensory instrument/detector in our body.

Research? References?

I would've thought the eyes have "more bandwidth".

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Mon May 15, 2006 7:52 pm

Nope. The dynamic range of the ear is far superior to the eye. Check the accoustics bible that they use as the class book at TKK for the basic accoustics course. I don't remeber the name right now but it's a pretty good book, 3rd edition is the current one. There they have a whole chapter dedicated to the anatomy and the physiology of the ear and compare it to a lot of other sensory organs. Anyways, think about it: 0dB to 120dB SPL .. that's insanely huge numbers (and the ear drum can tolerate, AFAIK, up to 130dB if lucky).

The eye is by far the most important sensory organ (it gets priority in the brain or something like that) but it's not the most sensitive.

Cheers!
bManic

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon May 15, 2006 8:06 pm

bmanic wrote:The eye is by far the most important sensory organ (it gets priority in the brain or something like that) but it's not the most sensitive.

Very OT, but it's a kind of a scretch to compare eye and ear sensitivity... I mean, what's the scale of comparison? number of sensory cells (AFAIK eyes have more)? Color vs. dB?

What about the cells that mostly work in nightvision?

Anyway,

what's the best mastering compressor?

bugs · Post by **bugs** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:35 pm

No MD3?

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:45 pm

bmanic wrote:The eye is by far the most important sensory organ (it gets priority in the brain or something like that) but it's not the most sensitive.

hence mindfucking.

leonard · Post by **leonard** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:49 pm

bduffy wrote:
Kingston wrote:
bduffy wrote:I do hope someone makes a GUI for Vanilla sometime.
Me too. Would be a piece of piss with synthedit, although I dislike the mandatory .sep trash it generates.
Agreed. That SE-Skinned version of the guitar suite JCM900 didn't work very well and pumped up the CPU. Maybe we should hook up Grymjack with the Chunkware guy...

yes, please!

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:55 pm

leonard wrote:
bduffy wrote:
Kingston wrote:
bduffy wrote:I do hope someone makes a GUI for Vanilla sometime.
Me too. Would be a piece of piss with synthedit, although I dislike the mandatory .sep trash it generates.
Agreed. That SE-Skinned version of the guitar suite JCM900 didn't work very well and pumped up the CPU. Maybe we should hook up Grymjack with the Chunkware guy...
yes, please!

Totally. How do we get their attention...?

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:11 pm

A skinned vanilla compressor?
OOh yes please missus.
On the website it still intimates that when finished it will be released commercially.
Personally I reckon a skin with the appropriate meters is all it needs.
Vanilla & blockfish are the only comp's I have at the moment, keep considering a couple of commercial ones, but they don't really sound better (to my non-golden ears anyway), so it would be purely those gui elements i'd be paying for.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:16 pm

diverdee wrote:A skinned vanilla compressor?
OOh yes please missus.
On the website it still intimates that when finished it will be released commercially.
Personally I reckon a skin with the appropriate meters is all it needs.
Vanilla & blockfish are the only comp's I have at the moment, keep considering a couple of commercial ones, but they don't really sound better (to my non-golden ears anyway), so it would be purely those gui elements i'd be paying for.

I'd be glad to pay for it with a skin. There's nothing worse than Cubase default GUI's. I can't stand using them, and I would use Vanilla more if it had something, anything as a UI.

RTaylor · Post by **RTaylor** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:36 pm

bduffy wrote:I'd be glad to pay for it with a skin. There's nothing worse than Cubase default GUI's. I can't stand using them, and I would use Vanilla more if it had something, anything as a UI.

Speaking of skins and mankind's next bold leap into GUI design... Has anyone seen this:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

It seems to me that skinworld is about to undergo a radical transformation.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:39 pm

RTaylor wrote:
bduffy wrote:I'd be glad to pay for it with a skin. There's nothing worse than Cubase default GUI's. I can't stand using them, and I would use Vanilla more if it had something, anything as a UI.
Speaking of skins and mankind's next bold leap into GUI design... Has anyone seen this:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

It seems to me that skinworld is about to undergo a radical transformation.

Sorry, old boy: can you translate that for me?

RTaylor · Post by **RTaylor** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:49 pm

bduffy wrote:
RTaylor wrote:
bduffy wrote:I'd be glad to pay for it with a skin. There's nothing worse than Cubase default GUI's. I can't stand using them, and I would use Vanilla more if it had something, anything as a UI.
Speaking of skins and mankind's next bold leap into GUI design... Has anyone seen this:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

It seems to me that skinworld is about to undergo a radical transformation.
Sorry, old boy: can you translate that for me?

The program pointed to is a sort of Photoshop/Illustrator/Flash tool for building GUI bits. It works with the WinFX stuff from Vista {which you can set up on xp}. It lets you build multimedia interfaces for both desktop and web applications and looks to me like it might make some real changes to GUI applications. I may just have been taken in a bit by the demo... there's more information here:

http://www.microsoft.com/products/expre ... fault.mspx

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:51 pm

Checking it out...

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:53 pm

Well - that's wild! is that free to download and try?

RTaylor · Post by **RTaylor** » Mon May 15, 2006 11:07 pm

bduffy wrote:Well - that's wild! is that free to download and try?

Yeah... you have to register and you need some other stuff so it ends up being a slightly larger than 7 meg download. The list of requirements is at the bottom of the page here:

http://www.microsoft.com/products/expre ... trial.aspx

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overall 'best' mastering compressor?

Generally, what do you consider to be the overall 'best' mastering compressor?