Does someone has any info on when we can expect the StompIO to hit the stores
Thanks
Release date of StompIO ?
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Aha Melodioso! What's up? 
Stomp IO, I am not sure. Not in the next couple of months I don't think. But, I will let you all know when it is getting very close. The protos work. I wish I had one for myself but there's only a few. Stealth will be out first and then Stomp IO will follow not too long after. Stealth maybe June/July.
Stomp IO, I am not sure. Not in the next couple of months I don't think. But, I will let you all know when it is getting very close. The protos work. I wish I had one for myself but there's only a few. Stealth will be out first and then Stomp IO will follow not too long after. Stealth maybe June/July.-
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 172 posts since 10 Oct, 2005
Hello Squids!
Ouch, a couple of months is a long time... I was more hoping for an answer like "in two weeks"!
Anyway, I would like to apologize for some of the comments I made toward you in the infamous AT2 thread. Some were nasty and unnecessary. AT2 is really a great amp sim, so good that I am planning on using it for a few concerts. But without a foot controller, that's going to be problematic... well, impossible.
Cheers!
Ouch, a couple of months is a long time... I was more hoping for an answer like "in two weeks"!
Anyway, I would like to apologize for some of the comments I made toward you in the infamous AT2 thread. Some were nasty and unnecessary. AT2 is really a great amp sim, so good that I am planning on using it for a few concerts. But without a foot controller, that's going to be problematic... well, impossible.
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Hey thanks. No probs at all. Glad you like it though. It was kind of hard for me to explain to everybody how much I loved the program with all my affiliations aside. But, it really is one of my favorites and I use it all the time now. In fact, I am using it tonight! I am fearless now with recording guitar tracks. I used to spend a lot of time getting the right sound out of a real amp, moving and switching mics and amps. I still would but I record the guitar dry as well to run through AT2 in the mix in case there's something I didn't like about the amp track. Or in many cases I just record it dry and expect to use AT2 (starting off with a reference preset or something).
I think the Stomp IO is the logical counterpart to a performance oriented AmpliTube 2 set up. My favorite part is the 6 expression pedal inputs which in the hands (or emmm feet!) can be put to some really good use! Wah, volume, modulation speed and depth, drive and who knows? Love it. For live playing the access to the 4,000 presets will be nice and also editing the plug-in fully from hardware kind of rocks. I wish all of my plug-ins had a dedicated hardware controller come to think of it. I am hoping people go nuts and pick up the Stomp IO as much as they're buying AT2 because then it will confirm that dedicated hardware controllers are a great thing and it may inspire (not to mention help finance) more hardware controllers for other things.
Well, sorry I don't have better news on the when part. I'll try to find out more as we go here. Heh. You know when I have a unit that it is getting closer but I don't have one yet (wish I did!!!). I think this is one of those things that some people think they won't get but then they hear about people loving it or they try it out themselves and say "Ummm, I gotta have this thing!!!!". You can also configure it to control other software too I believe. I think it was a great idea. I am anxious myself.
I think the Stomp IO is the logical counterpart to a performance oriented AmpliTube 2 set up. My favorite part is the 6 expression pedal inputs which in the hands (or emmm feet!) can be put to some really good use! Wah, volume, modulation speed and depth, drive and who knows? Love it. For live playing the access to the 4,000 presets will be nice and also editing the plug-in fully from hardware kind of rocks. I wish all of my plug-ins had a dedicated hardware controller come to think of it. I am hoping people go nuts and pick up the Stomp IO as much as they're buying AT2 because then it will confirm that dedicated hardware controllers are a great thing and it may inspire (not to mention help finance) more hardware controllers for other things.
Well, sorry I don't have better news on the when part. I'll try to find out more as we go here. Heh. You know when I have a unit that it is getting closer but I don't have one yet (wish I did!!!). I think this is one of those things that some people think they won't get but then they hear about people loving it or they try it out themselves and say "Ummm, I gotta have this thing!!!!". You can also configure it to control other software too I believe. I think it was a great idea. I am anxious myself.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 172 posts since 10 Oct, 2005
AT2 is kind of cool, yeah! However, the fact that they didn't include any way for the user to change the presets with an external controller is unacceptable. This information was not made public prior the release (or after for that matter): only the StompIO can fully control AT2. Had I known this, I wouldn't have bought it. I made a mistake assuming that AT2 would be on par with the other big players (GR2 for example.) Are you supposed to use your mouse while playing?!? 
It is clear IKMM took this decision to boost the sales of the StompIO. The problem is I already have two great foot controllers. The DI I use is 100x better than whatever they will use in the StompIO. The AD/DA I use is 100x better than whatever they will use in the StompIO. But I'll have to pay for a sub-quality controller to use AT2?
No, I don't need access to 4000 presets when playing live. 6 to 8 is all I need!
For the "ultimate guitar gear", that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Sorry for the rant, eSoundz is not responsible for that, I know. Had to let it out...
It is clear IKMM took this decision to boost the sales of the StompIO. The problem is I already have two great foot controllers. The DI I use is 100x better than whatever they will use in the StompIO. The AD/DA I use is 100x better than whatever they will use in the StompIO. But I'll have to pay for a sub-quality controller to use AT2?
No, I don't need access to 4000 presets when playing live. 6 to 8 is all I need!For the "ultimate guitar gear", that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Sorry for the rant, eSoundz is not responsible for that, I know. Had to let it out...
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Oh, sorry about that. Well, there must be a way to just change presets and basic controls. It might have to be through something else. Not sure. Stomp IO isn't substandard though for what it does. Okay maybe you don't need access to 4,000 presets but the system for pedals and switches is pretty sweet, the control over every aspect of the plug-in from hardware makes it the ideal control surface for it over anything else too. If/when using it as an interface to record guitar the latency is low and the sound is really good. It is hard to find a beefy HI Z input and this works well since it is dedicated to that task.
But, I understand what you are saying. For basic stuff like preset changing there must be a way. I will mention it anyway and see.
But, I understand what you are saying. For basic stuff like preset changing there must be a way. I will mention it anyway and see.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 172 posts since 10 Oct, 2005
Another thread was also talking about this topic, I hadn't seen it.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1823760
Looks like several users have the same problem... Is this enough for IKMM to implement MIDI Learn? Or at least to allow presets change from a third party controller?
You know, these features are implemented in competing products... In fact, I consider them to be basic and necessary in a commerial plug retailing for $400.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1823760
Looks like several users have the same problem... Is this enough for IKMM to implement MIDI Learn? Or at least to allow presets change from a third party controller?
You know, these features are implemented in competing products... In fact, I consider them to be basic and necessary in a commerial plug retailing for $400.
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
You know I love AT2. I did not get into AT1 at all, finding it to be mostly unusable and bizarre sounding. BUt AT2 is chock full of great sounds that respond very well to my playing. I am still finding useful sounds and now I believe. In fact I had a gutar player friend over this past weekend who owns some primo high end guitars and amps - he was very impressed after playing though AT2 for just a few minutes.
What I am missing is external control. I cannnot automate parameters with my midi controller. This is a serious deficency. No Stomp I/O will be the optimal way no doubt especially if the Stomp I/O works as a standalone hardware processor. I understand that this is what the prototypes are capable of, right Dave?
Lets hope we can have Stomp I/O in our hands and under our Python boots before Christmas!
What I am missing is external control. I cannnot automate parameters with my midi controller. This is a serious deficency. No Stomp I/O will be the optimal way no doubt especially if the Stomp I/O works as a standalone hardware processor. I understand that this is what the prototypes are capable of, right Dave?
Lets hope we can have Stomp I/O in our hands and under our Python boots before Christmas!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 172 posts since 10 Oct, 2005
Beardedone,
Are you implying that with the StompIO, you won't need to have a laptop on the side to run the plugin? That would be a totally cool surprise, no need to worry about carrying a laptop and the Syncrosoft key around! But I doubt StompIO will do that, as AT2 is very CPU hungry, specially if you run two gigs in parallel plus FX. Or what would then be the price of the unit?!?
NoBrain2k,
Yes, the presets change are very slow... As it stands right now, it would be impossible to use AT2 live, unless they optimize the thing or try to cover the silence in between with a sample of the last sounds you were playing. Is that feasible?
AT2 is really a paradox: on one hand it is one of the most advanced amp sim available, on the other it is lacking some basic features...
Are you implying that with the StompIO, you won't need to have a laptop on the side to run the plugin? That would be a totally cool surprise, no need to worry about carrying a laptop and the Syncrosoft key around! But I doubt StompIO will do that, as AT2 is very CPU hungry, specially if you run two gigs in parallel plus FX. Or what would then be the price of the unit?!?
NoBrain2k,
Yes, the presets change are very slow... As it stands right now, it would be impossible to use AT2 live, unless they optimize the thing or try to cover the silence in between with a sample of the last sounds you were playing. Is that feasible?
AT2 is really a paradox: on one hand it is one of the most advanced amp sim available, on the other it is lacking some basic features...
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
That was my understanding. In addition to being a hardware controller it also functions as a stomp box. I hope I am right here. Dave?Beardedone,
Are you implying that with the StompIO, you won't need to have a laptop on the side to run the plugin? That would be a totally cool surprise, no need to worry about carrying a laptop and the Syncrosoft key around! But I doubt StompIO will do that, as AT2 is very CPU hungry, specially if you run two gigs in parallel plus FX. Or what would then be the price of the unit?!?
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
No, this is not correct. It requires a CPU of course. It is just a control surface and audio interface. But, it is a thorough control surface so that you don't even need a MONITOR to edit the plug-in or perform with it. That already is a huge step and vastly different from the Rig Control for example.Beardedone wrote:That was my understanding. In addition to being a hardware controller it also functions as a stomp box. I hope I am right here. Dave?Beardedone,
Are you implying that with the StompIO, you won't need to have a laptop on the side to run the plugin? That would be a totally cool surprise, no need to worry about carrying a laptop and the Syncrosoft key around! But I doubt StompIO will do that, as AT2 is very CPU hungry, specially if you run two gigs in parallel plus FX. Or what would then be the price of the unit?!?
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal