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Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:12 pm

I was wondering if it would be possible to get a better response to your guitar playing
when using YOUR ampsims and distortion plug-ins.

So I was trying for the last couple of days to find a solution
and I did.

It was quite a complex undertaking and it will only work with a certain number of available VSTs.
(but it covers the most important ones)

Those of you, who know XmasTube understand what I mean by "responds", to your guitar playing.

I have tried to adapt a similar technique that was used inside XmasTube,
but that can be used by different ampsims.

Please let me know what you think about this idea.

Cheers

René

runagate · Post by **runagate** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:18 pm

I don't understand what you're saying but it sounds interesting so I'll stick around
and see what happens.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:24 pm

Usually when you play most of the ampsims, the feeling is quite dead and static.
The distortion is distorting but does not react to the way you hit the strings.
(soft/hard)

This plug-in will change that, and breath life into your guitar tracks.

Melodioso · Post by **Melodioso** » Sun May 21, 2006 12:23 am

Hello MW,

Yes, it sounds intriguing... But personally, I'm not interested in ideas. I'm interested in actual products, that you can use in actual projects. Wouldn't it be wiser to spend your time on finishing and releasing your amp sim?

runagate · Post by **runagate** » Sun May 21, 2006 12:26 am

I personally think that this is really something that should be concentrated upon for almost all fx (although the way one would achieve this would vary greatly).

I'll toast to your success.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Sun May 21, 2006 12:28 am

I would like it if you renamed the thread "Guitar Players!!! Guitar response simulator VST ???"

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:54 am

It's funny you know, I hadn't realized I actually hit submit on that previous post.

But René, isn't one ridiculous guitar-related speculative thread enough? I think your idea sounds interesting, but the proof is in the pudding, as they say.

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:02 am

Is it like Amplitude Imposer ( http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1492.html )? There was a recent thread about that vst ( http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132027 )and it seems like that one could help out high gain amp sims if placed properly in the signal chain.

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:03 am

haha YEah I think Midiworks is crazy..

This definitly will not get too good of a response, especially from those who were a part of that long ass amp sim thread that has never seen the light of day.. And I really think MW has got to know all the shit that is bound to come his way.

It really is funny! ALthough I somehow enjoy his humour..

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:05 am

Midiworks wrote:Please let me know what you think about this idea.

Rene...to be honest, I would think this thing to be completely impossible.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:55 am

kilroy wrote:
Midiworks wrote:Please let me know what you think about this idea.
Rene...to be honest, I would think this thing to be completely impossible.

This is actually, what I was thinking too.
But then I was thinking, "but what if it would be possible ? ..."

Let me tell you, it is working already !

It is using the latest module of our ampsim in a not intended way.
(right, the module that is given us major problems at the moment.)

Is it like Amplitude Imposer ( http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1492.html )? There was a recent thread about that vst ( http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132027 )and it seems like that one could help out high gain amp sims if placed properly in the signal chain.

The Guitar response simulator, will load/host your existing ampsim or distortion plugin
and then do its magic.

This is also one of the reasons why it will only work with VSTs it is adapted for.

I could post some audio demos, but actually I would prefer to post a demo version,
so all of you can try it for yourself.

Wouldn't it be wiser to spend your time on finishing and releasing your amp sim?

It is depending on "the" unfinished part of the ampsim.

This definitly will not get too good of a response, especially from those who were a part of that long ass amp sim thread that has never seen the light of day..

You are right, and you might be laughing or not, but the bass amplifier is sitting for many month here on my computer...
But then I thought, if I release the bass amplifier before the guitar amplifier, all the people waiting for the guitar amp will really jump on me and kill me.

(and this time for a valid reason.)

The Guitar response simulator is a different, a new kind of plug-in and it does not interfere with the ampsim.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:51 am

I wonder how the internal dynamics of whatever amp simps can be tweaked.
Of course, actually, they can be. For instance in GuitarRig, which allows the input level to work as a modulator. It's even working for me.
Also, there's a plugin to be used in Energy XT and the likes, takes audio input levels to generate MIDI controller output.

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:07 am

MW, if you manage to keep-up this kind of work-rate then pretty soon you'll be able to furnish entire commercial studios with imaginary software!

DaveSmom · Post by **DaveSmom** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:11 am

championrabbit wrote:MW, if you manage to keep-up this kind of work-rate then pretty soon you'll be able to furnish entire commercial studios with imaginary software!

Quote of the week

Paul Sobek · Post by **Paul Sobek** » Sun May 21, 2006 11:03 am

if you could just release a demo of this and your guitar amp sim even just re-release the xmax amp which i never got to try maybe people would be less skeptical