KVR Audio

paulc_dj · Post by **paulc_dj** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:23 pm

I have a quick question about routing for this in FL6. At the moment I am routing the output of my s/c kick channel directly to the channel with the s/c comp on it with key mode set to L/R, panned hard left. And I am routing my loops that I want s/c'd as well directly there (selecting their FX channel in channel settings as the same) panned hard right. After doing some reading I discover that the way to do it really is to assign the s/c kick its own channel and then assign the samples their own channel in the mixer and then send them to the /sc group for the effect. I have tried this but keep getting the kick coming out of the left channel in the mix, which is not good. I have tried the stereo separation knob on the right above the master for each mixer channel and that didn't do the trick either. Is there a way of routing it in this way in FL6 that will work or does work for any of you?

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Qubit · Post by **Qubit** » Tue May 23, 2006 10:45 pm

I've got it working and this is how I do the rather tedious work. First you need to create an own channel for the kick and remove the send to master for this channel, call this channel for instance "kick". Further send "kick" to three new channels and call them "Kick Left", "Kick Right" and "Kick out". Use fruityMute to separate the signals. Don't forget to remove the send to master for "kick", "Kick Left" and "Kick Right" and NOT for "Kick out" since this will be the channel to actually hear the kick drum.

Now send "Kick Left" to a new channel called "SC Right" and "Kick Right" to "SC Left" (yes the opposite ones) and put an instance of Waves C1 SC on both of these channels. What you need to do now is to choose in each waves plug under "key mode", which should be "R->L" for channel "SC Left" and "L->R" for channel "SC Right". These should be routed to master.

So far so good hopefully...

Now to the actual signal that is going to be compressed. Create a new channel called "Bass" and do exactly thesame thing as before, i.e. a "Bass Left" and so on, except you will send the "Bass Left" to "SC Left" and "Bass Right" to "SC Right".

Now everything should work when you set the ratio and threshold for the both plugins...if you don't get this to work I can create the .flp file for you, just pm me...

good luck

G-Ro124 · Post by **G-Ro124** » Wed May 24, 2006 12:49 am

i can post a sidechain tutorial with permission from the author.. you don't even need a special compressor, just the FL mixer

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Wed May 24, 2006 3:19 am

G-Ro124 wrote:i can post a sidechain tutorial with permission from the author.. you don't even need a special compressor, just the FL mixer

...are you talking about the peak controller thingee?

Qubit · Post by **Qubit** » Wed May 24, 2006 9:24 am

Well I believe paulc_dj specifically wanted to know how to do this with Waves C1...

G-Ro124 · Post by **G-Ro124** » Wed May 24, 2006 7:01 pm

Debutante wrote:
G-Ro124 wrote:i can post a sidechain tutorial with permission from the author.. you don't even need a special compressor, just the FL mixer
...are you talking about the peak controller thingee?

yes... put a peak controller, automate the level and then assign that as internal controller to compressor on kick or so

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Wed May 24, 2006 7:22 pm

Qubit wrote:Well I believe paulc_dj specifically wanted to know how to do this with Waves C1...

Very true, and no disrespect to his thread, but I've been wanting to know what solutions people have to decent sidechaining in FL:
- The peak controller was the first I've heard
- ...and this Waves compressor seems a better, albeit more complicated, second option.
- Is anyone making use of the Twisted Sideckick 3 from Twisted Lemon as a possible third, since it routes its own signals between instances, it seems like a fine option. Are there any similar compressors elsewhere?

Qubit · Post by **Qubit** » Wed May 24, 2006 11:57 pm

Yes actually. I know that the Compressor in TC Natives plugin does exactly this. One instance of the compressor on the signal being compressed and a sidechain plugin on the kick channel. No other tedious routing is necessary. I'm not sure this is developed anymore though, but here is the info I managed to dig up: http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=1333

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Thu May 25, 2006 4:38 pm

Thank you for that Qubit! I'll have to look at a that option further.

EDIT: Look for Twisted Lemons Sidekick 3

G-Ro124 · Post by **G-Ro124** » Thu May 25, 2006 7:36 pm

you know, the Peak Controller method is VERY reliable and very good... It works, although I haven't fully understood how to. In the tutorial that was posted on this site (google "Silexz") the guy who did it really got it, but I can't understand how he did it

Sidechaining in FL6 with Waves C1 comp-sc