Here's a link to a CD review site that I do reviews for (for the free CDs).
http://www.tollbooth.org/2006/reviews/cmkr.html
Warning, it's not too kind and we only got 2.5/5 'tocks'.
-Scott
Musicians for Katrina Relief
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
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Oh well -- I'm proud of every digital bit of it and still quite amazed that so may retarded egotistical jerks could pull it all together enough to make, not one, but TWO CDs..
In fairness, I think reviewers should read this entire thread in order to witness the remarkable effort everyone applied, and to give credit to our host KVR.
Having NOT done this, any review of the final product can only be rather shallow IMHO, and I'd like to see a professional review that DID take all into consideration -- but then, we live on Planet Earth.
Very nice comments on Van Greco's vocals (an Alan Parsons clone)and Bourbon Street Boat by Herodotus and Sascha!
Anyway, such comments are indeed helpful and only serve to help us make the next one better!
Anyone up for doing another one? This time a SINGLE CD only
They say this year's hurricane season is going to be another rough one! Then, there's the recent calamities in Indonesia, Pakistan, Darfur and elsewhere... it never ends, yeah?
Cheers & Many Blessings,
Alex
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- Banned
- 4073 posts since 15 Mar, 2004
By the way -- The webmaster for the reviewer 'The Phantom Tollbooth' should change the wording of the page metadata from "A Review of The Phantom Tollbooth" to "A Review From The Phantom Tollbooth"... Nothing like bad grammar to give a bad impression...
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- KVRAF
- 2828 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from Canarias
That's not at all a bad review, considering we were not intending a commercial breake-through on some hit-parade.
Indeed Xander, comments are helpful !
Let's make 1 song per disaster, so people can sing it around the campfire at night. Every 20 catastrophes we bundle them on a Disaster CD.
Indeed Xander, comments are helpful !
Let's make 1 song per disaster, so people can sing it around the campfire at night. Every 20 catastrophes we bundle them on a Disaster CD.
Carpo diem ergo sum !
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- Banned
- 4073 posts since 15 Mar, 2004
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- 4073 posts since 15 Mar, 2004
Well said!Max el Belga wrote:That's not at all a bad review, considering we were not intending a commercial breake-through on some hit-parade.
Indeed Xander, comments are helpful !
Let's make 1 song per disaster, so people can sing it around the campfire at night. Every 20 catastrophes we bundle them on a Disaster CD.
BTW Max -- Congrats on NOT being a good Muzak musician!
Cheers,
Alex
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Parallel Worlds Parallel Worlds https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=80486
- KVRist
- 374 posts since 7 Sep, 2005 from Greece
never mind guys.
reviews come and go.
it is the music and effort that stays!
best regards,
Bakis.
reviews come and go.
it is the music and effort that stays!
best regards,
Bakis.
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
Alex,
I'm up for more relief efforts. I actually tried working out a deal with World Vision, but I'm not a marquee artist and they canned the idea. I thought it would be cool to do strictly downloadable tunes through their site, for donation. Too messy was their reply.
For future projects, here are some suggestions:
1. Keep it to one disc at a time. Opens up a much larger group of disc manufacturers.
2. As a result, if more than 74 minutes of music is submitted, the tracks are juried by the KVR community, not unlike the monthly contests. One has to admit, the voting works out fairly well there, even with some artists having a certain amount of celebrity in KVR-dom.
3. Keep the CD cost to around $10. I think many folks are scared off by the $25 price, even though it's cheaper per song than any on-line music service except for the illegal russian sites.
4. To mix things up a bit, if many tracks get submitted, here's an extension of the jury idea: Take the top 188 minutes of music, say that's 40 songs, and intersperse the order on two independent discs, so disc 1 gets vote placement 1,11,3,13,5,15, etc. and disc 2 gets vote placement songs 2, 12, 4, 14, 6, 16, etc.
5. Start over again.
Other things I've been thinking about knowing that we still have 200+ discs on the shelf at Freeztar's house or at CDBaby (I don't know where they are):
1. Is it possible to get inventory back from CDBaby if they are located there? Right now, the 200+ CDs are not moving as far as I know. They are not generating any funds for Katrina relief. What if we got 100 of them back and hand delivered them to 100 radio stations with a decent press kit? Or to better known music review sites? Seems like that would move more discs and generate more for charity than them just sitting there doing nothing.
2. We need a better marketing plan next time around. I'm not sure what this would entail, but obviously what we did do only sold to our families and friends for the most part. For the folks I know in independent bands, the only way that they really move product is at-show sales. Once their fan base expands and some stir is generated, then sales can come on-line, but at-show sales are the primary mover. This kind of doesn't work for us unless we set aside perhaps 25% of our production run to be given to each contributing artist so that they can spread some for at-show sales. I also think we probably need a myspace presence next time around - or even if we want to kick one off now.
2. Maybe we are living in the past thinking that CD sales are the way to go for making money for charity with our tunes. If you've ever read any of KVRian "Plunge"'s efforts, he did something quite cool for charity. www.dollarblog.org Maybe we can follow his model next time around.
Sorry for the cavalcade of random thoughts. I just would like to move those CD's so HFH can have more money.
It's too bad we can't get Scot Solida to write up an article for CM about our project.
-Scott
I'm up for more relief efforts. I actually tried working out a deal with World Vision, but I'm not a marquee artist and they canned the idea. I thought it would be cool to do strictly downloadable tunes through their site, for donation. Too messy was their reply.
For future projects, here are some suggestions:
1. Keep it to one disc at a time. Opens up a much larger group of disc manufacturers.
2. As a result, if more than 74 minutes of music is submitted, the tracks are juried by the KVR community, not unlike the monthly contests. One has to admit, the voting works out fairly well there, even with some artists having a certain amount of celebrity in KVR-dom.
3. Keep the CD cost to around $10. I think many folks are scared off by the $25 price, even though it's cheaper per song than any on-line music service except for the illegal russian sites.
4. To mix things up a bit, if many tracks get submitted, here's an extension of the jury idea: Take the top 188 minutes of music, say that's 40 songs, and intersperse the order on two independent discs, so disc 1 gets vote placement 1,11,3,13,5,15, etc. and disc 2 gets vote placement songs 2, 12, 4, 14, 6, 16, etc.
5. Start over again.
Other things I've been thinking about knowing that we still have 200+ discs on the shelf at Freeztar's house or at CDBaby (I don't know where they are):
1. Is it possible to get inventory back from CDBaby if they are located there? Right now, the 200+ CDs are not moving as far as I know. They are not generating any funds for Katrina relief. What if we got 100 of them back and hand delivered them to 100 radio stations with a decent press kit? Or to better known music review sites? Seems like that would move more discs and generate more for charity than them just sitting there doing nothing.
2. We need a better marketing plan next time around. I'm not sure what this would entail, but obviously what we did do only sold to our families and friends for the most part. For the folks I know in independent bands, the only way that they really move product is at-show sales. Once their fan base expands and some stir is generated, then sales can come on-line, but at-show sales are the primary mover. This kind of doesn't work for us unless we set aside perhaps 25% of our production run to be given to each contributing artist so that they can spread some for at-show sales. I also think we probably need a myspace presence next time around - or even if we want to kick one off now.
2. Maybe we are living in the past thinking that CD sales are the way to go for making money for charity with our tunes. If you've ever read any of KVRian "Plunge"'s efforts, he did something quite cool for charity. www.dollarblog.org Maybe we can follow his model next time around.
Sorry for the cavalcade of random thoughts. I just would like to move those CD's so HFH can have more money.
It's too bad we can't get Scot Solida to write up an article for CM about our project.
-Scott
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- KVRAF
- 2401 posts since 29 Dec, 2002 from In the dark
How many copies of the CDs were sold to date?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2495 posts since 18 May, 2004 from ATL-USA
Somewhere around 185, I can't remember the exact number, but we haven't sold any since January to my knowledge.Sepheritoh wrote:How many copies of the CDs were sold to date?
Anti-aliasing is for "synthmonk%ys".
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2495 posts since 18 May, 2004 from ATL-USA
They are at cdbaby and we have about 320 left!rockstar_not wrote:Other things I've been thinking about knowing that we still have 200+ discs on the shelf at Freeztar's house or at CDBaby (I don't know where they are):
I still have a few promo discs left, so if anyone has a lead on where to send them then let me know.
Anti-aliasing is for "synthmonk%ys".
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
I think I sold one to a friend last week. Mine Tasci would have been the purchaser.
-Scott
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Great post Scotty -- leaves a lot to think about and some good ideas. Good to see the rest of you all piping up too (maybe we needed a lil rest eh?
I am surprised at World Vision's response to your idea, but they may be a bit short-handed.
I have a friend that is a missionary for World Vision in Viet Nam -- great peeps.
One thing I'd like to add for us to think about: For the Katrina effort we were under some pressure to release product in order for our effort to be timely -- and even so I think we slipped a bit.
For any new effort, we should take the time to structure and more properly organise the effort.
Although voting on tracks to accept or reject is a good thought, another way would simply be to line up some volunteer artists and give them approximate track times for them to produce their piece. In this way, we'd know in advance the total time and more or less the quality of the product, etc.
My thoughts so far at 05:00 am Saturday morning here
Cheers,
Alex
I am surprised at World Vision's response to your idea, but they may be a bit short-handed.
I have a friend that is a missionary for World Vision in Viet Nam -- great peeps.
One thing I'd like to add for us to think about: For the Katrina effort we were under some pressure to release product in order for our effort to be timely -- and even so I think we slipped a bit.
For any new effort, we should take the time to structure and more properly organise the effort.
Although voting on tracks to accept or reject is a good thought, another way would simply be to line up some volunteer artists and give them approximate track times for them to produce their piece. In this way, we'd know in advance the total time and more or less the quality of the product, etc.
My thoughts so far at 05:00 am Saturday morning here
Cheers,
Alex
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
Then she didn't follow through. I'll have to ask her about it on Monday.freeztar wrote:I don't see a record of that sale.
-Scott