Reaper: Why doesnt the piano roll Dock like the mixer..

[LIMITAPROACHINGINFINITY]

Why cant we dock the piano roll down as a tab like the mixer and routing matrix? This seems like an obvious quick improvement to make reaper compete with other midi editing piano rolls out there.

What i really want (in adition to having it docked down there is inline midi editing!) but this would suffice..

[randygo]

I agree. Really, a lot more things should be dockable, like the FX window.

I think I've seen this request on the Reaper forums before.

Cheers,

Randy

[çççq]

the only one i think it shouldn't be on a floated window is the cpu/performance meter,.. all the rest for me gotta be hidden , wanna just see the tracks, and i just click the keys shortcut when i need the other windows..so i don't mind very much if they are dockable or not ..

[Art Evans]

"DoubleDesktop" (freeware) is another way of doing things - allows you to set up your ancilliary windows in a second virtual monitor and flip between them using a shortcut of your choosing.

[jens]

the only one i think it shouldn't be on a floated window is the cpu/performance meter..

why not? All floating is optional anyway, you know - so why shouldn't the perf-monitor have this option as well - after all you do not need to use it if you don't want to - that's the great thing about options...

[jens]

good idea about the docking, but for me the most imprtant thing about the piano-roll window would be that it recalls its size and position...

I almost always use the piano-roll maximized - for me there's usually no reason to seee anything else when editing midi - and as I rather often play two-handed patterns which have a range of up to four or five octaves having the window not maximized means a lot of scrolling/zooming...

[LIMITAPROACHINGINFINITY]

good idea about the docking, but for me the most imprtant thing about the piano-roll window would be that it recalls its size and position...

I almost always use the piano-roll maximized - for me there's usually no reason to seee anything else when editing midi - and as I rather often play two-handed patterns which have a range of up to four or five octaves having the window not maximized means a lot of scrolling/zooming...

But what if you want your different tracks to talk to each other.. Ya know, think abou the whole mix, SEE how you can program you bass along with the drum track. That, i guesse, is the main advantage of inline editing.. You can program multiple things at once, and create music that gels well with itself..

[Jason Brian Merrill]

good idea about the docking, but for me the most imprtant thing about the piano-roll window would be that it recalls its size and position...

I almost always use the piano-roll maximized - for me there's usually no reason to seee anything else when editing midi - and as I rather often play two-handed patterns which have a range of up to four or five octaves having the window not maximized means a lot of scrolling/zooming...

But what if you want your different tracks to talk to each other.. Ya know, think abou the whole mix, SEE how you can program you bass along with the drum track. That, i guesse, is the main advantage of inline editing.. You can program multiple things at once, and create music that gels well with itself..

agreed

[5.1]

Why cant we dock the piano roll down as a tab like the mixer and routing matrix? This seems like an obvious quick improvement to make reaper compete with other midi editing piano rolls out there.

What i really want (in adition to having it docked down there is inline midi editing!) but this would suffice..

Yeah, I'd really prefer inline midi editing too, but what you suggest would be a good compromise in the short term.

The biggest problem I find with the current Reaper midi editor is that it doesn't synchronise to the timeline. You can play the timeline, or the midi file in the editor, but not both in sync with each other. If the editor was synchronised to the timeline you could select a region on the timeline, open up the midi editor and be right at the spot where you want to edit. I hope this is a feature that can be implemented. Or inline editing.

[Art Evans]

I have no doubt that Reaper's midi implementation can only be currently be described as "initial" and that there will be considerable changes in the weeks to come.

[sinkmusic]

Why cant we dock the piano roll down as a tab like the mixer and routing matrix? This seems like an obvious quick improvement to make reaper compete with other midi editing piano rolls out there.

What i really want (in adition to having it docked down there is inline midi editing!) but this would suffice..

Yes, definitively a good idea !
... and the ability to swap from "notes" modes to "CC envelopes" mode too

[çççq]

i love that "in the weeks to come." . yeah we can be optimistic !

[jens]

good idea about the docking, but for me the most imprtant thing about the piano-roll window would be that it recalls its size and position...

I almost always use the piano-roll maximized - for me there's usually no reason to seee anything else when editing midi - and as I rather often play two-handed patterns which have a range of up to four or five octaves having the window not maximized means a lot of scrolling/zooming...

But what if you want your different tracks to talk to each other.. Ya know, think abou the whole mix, SEE how you can program you bass along with the drum track. That, i guesse, is the main advantage of inline editing.. You can program multiple things at once, and create music that gels well with itself..

I can do that perfectly well without seeing the other tracks

a. because I composed/played/programmed them and know what they're doing

b. because I'm hearing them



It's all about skills, you know?

[Jason Brian Merrill]

good idea about the docking, but for me the most imprtant thing about the piano-roll window would be that it recalls its size and position...

I almost always use the piano-roll maximized - for me there's usually no reason to seee anything else when editing midi - and as I rather often play two-handed patterns which have a range of up to four or five octaves having the window not maximized means a lot of scrolling/zooming...

But what if you want your different tracks to talk to each other.. Ya know, think abou the whole mix, SEE how you can program you bass along with the drum track. That, i guesse, is the main advantage of inline editing.. You can program multiple things at once, and create music that gels well with itself..

I can do that perfectly well without seeing the other tracks

a. because I composed/played/programmed them and know what they're doing

b. because I'm hearing them



It's all about skills, you know?

its also about visualization!

seeing them means alot!

[jens]

its also about visualization!

seeing them means alot!

not to me, not at all - I can see however how it can be useful for someone who's just starting out - but in the long run no notes/beats/accents should be arbitrary/accidentally so I think you as the composer/arranger/producer should always know where exactly they are and hence you do not need to have a visual representation of them when you are working on one certain pattern...


One day you'll get the picture...