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VaiHalen wrote:There is something clear for me: I hear POD tracks, Xt tracks, Amplitube 1 tracks...and I hear my presets in GR2, nothing can compare to the sounds I get with GR2. If I hear a guitar solo using Amplitube 2 that it's better than what I get, then I'll be very glad. But nobody proves it, nobody post it, so GR2 is the best.
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I like GR2 far more than amplitube 1, since i don't have syncrosoft key, no reason to buy one, I don't know much about A2. However I had a chance to use Waves GTR and I am staying with GR2, the GTR combo emulaions are fine (maybe more realistic than GR2 but i find GR2 far more inspiring- good not only as emulations but good for making entirely new sounds) but those stomp boxes sucks, it is not one aplication they are basicaly two plugins to be used in host and this sucks too not mentioning the price. So for all purists of the sound give it a break and make music by any means you can.
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...some comments:

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.p ... g2press_us
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Hink wrote: all I ask is one thing...would you please tell me what my argument with KillVehicle is?..I only used that exchange as one example and in fact my points do refer to other people entirely so I have not a clue where you are coming from. True, I do not care for the way KV talks to people...and I'm far from alone there...but it seems you and he think I have a beef with him when in fact I do not...please go read my responses to him and posts to him...I have said I respect his opinion's have said that even though his choice of genre isn't the same as I mine I have on more than one occasion said it still was good for the genre...I have never called KV any names though he claims I have trashed him and his music...and I would like to see any proof of that...he has in fact swore at me many times for which I shrug off, he has in fact called me a coward and stupid...and yet I still respect his opinion...but like I said before I don't always agree with how he delivers his opinions.

So I have no issue with him at all except I hope he will treat people with a little more respect when he talks to them, if he doesn't I will adapt...I am talking about those who attack and judge other people's music and put's themselves above people, KillVehicle has not done that from what I have seen...you have no right what so ever to put words in my mouth or say how I feel about someone. My points about disrespectful comments came from different members entirely...so you are dead wrong and assuming the way you have you have puts me in a bad light that I do not deserve...perhaps you should keep your armchair physcoanalysis to yourself until you are sure you know what you are talking about, because you have not a clue this time what you are talking about.
Hink, I really do not understand your intentions. First, I am not spending my time reading all your postings on KVR. Killvehicle crossed my mind because I have unintentionally seen you two argue in at least 2 threads, and you have wrote some stuff similar to stuff in this thread. So I thought this is one of those things you are pointing at. I am not criticizing you, or Killvehicle, and as your post here was kind of rant, I came with positive intentions, at least giving advice of living and let go when person goes thru something that is not pleasent experience is in my world considered as good intention... But you somehow have arguing tone, and your every answer is toned like I am criticizing you, and like you have to defend something from me... So I really do not understand what you want to say. I have no issues with you and I have no bad words for you or Killvehicle or anyone else here.
If you wanted to point at something with "My points about disrespectful comments came from different members entirely..." maybe you should have been more direct. Also "Armchair analysis" end of your post is really hostile for no reason.
It is like I am sitting in bar and someone next to me starts to rant about not liking something, and keeps about it, but after my comment that I hope he will be ok, and that he does not need to waste his time energy and nerves on some things so he can feel better, in turn this guy comes with "fcuk off" attitude, and attacks me about putting my nose in his private life etc.
If I keep repeating that I have no bad intentions and you act like I am against you, well...What can I say...
Still I cant see why you thinked my behavoir is not nice. I cant understand why you dont see a good thing that someone is glad with his guitar tone and wants to share it with others. His opinion can be wrong but that is not excuse to bash him. But well, you said your reasons to do that. Cooky for tryng to emulate Van Halen sound?? You are wrong; I admire the damn Van Halen! It's a tone and guitar playing well known and for this reason I posted a try (good try) of gettin his tone. Are you visited my songclick page? Do you think the tones in the Quenn cover, the Van Halen 2, the Gary Moore tracks are bad? I think they are good, very good. I'm always talking about tone, not my playing. And maybe others can enjoy this plugin like I do.
Maybe you live in a very competitive and paranoid world, where everybody wants be number one?!

And thanks for the tablature, I almost have figured out the solo but the end of the first part, the arpeggio where Marty accelerate the playing (Marty's old technic to create a great sense of speed) it's the most hard to me to figure out.
Difference in cultures, internet communications... I just think that anyone should be sure to have any background when talking about something. I was criticizing your behaviour, not you personally, partly because I am recognizing this attitude often. I will visit your soundclick page later and mail you comments in a good will. It is just like I am not stating that some plugin EQ "Is same like a Pultec EQ" if I don't have enough experience mixing records with great hardware EQ's. And I am respecting the fact that a lot of people that do know their job think that their Hardware EQs sound better than software emulations, and in similar way I respect that someone does not have money to buy rack full of EQs or just needs good enough software soulution. It is just about respect and knowledge, it was kind of rude and like bashing all guitarists that have invested their time money and energy into developing their sound thru all these years when you have said it is all the same. Marty Freidman is very anal about his sound, and I remember that he commented once that Mustaine put big pressure on him because Dave is even more anal about sound.
Anyway I hope there is no hard feelings and that you will nail that Megadeth solo eventually!
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Whatever....
here are some more:
http://www.amplitube.com/News.php

and these pretty things from their web site
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It is great page...awards...positive reviews...Great. But it is interesting that there is no great guitar players commenting on GR2, because they have just recorded their album with GR2 exclusively and want to rave about its phenomenal sound.
Amplitube 1 also got rave reviews at its time, but I am not sure that right now people think it is so great, at least comparable to newer amp sims.

I mean, GR2 is great for what it is, and it is very usefull tool. But I find it interesting that NI promotion is similar like it is home recording tool for hobbyists and computer based daws in small studios. Promotion is more similar to promotion for a softsynth than tool for guitarists, I am not getting that. IK similary used model girl with big boobies instead of at least second league guitar player in their marketing. I only remeber Nomad tried to connect their sim with a real guitar player, but their sim was not succes because of other reasons...
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Vervil wrote:
Hink wrote: all I ask is one thing...would you please tell me what my argument with KillVehicle is?..I only used that exchange as one example and in fact my points do refer to other people entirely so I have not a clue where you are coming from. True, I do not care for the way KV talks to people...and I'm far from alone there...but it seems you and he think I have a beef with him when in fact I do not...please go read my responses to him and posts to him...I have said I respect his opinion's have said that even though his choice of genre isn't the same as I mine I have on more than one occasion said it still was good for the genre...I have never called KV any names though he claims I have trashed him and his music...and I would like to see any proof of that...he has in fact swore at me many times for which I shrug off, he has in fact called me a coward and stupid...and yet I still respect his opinion...but like I said before I don't always agree with how he delivers his opinions.

So I have no issue with him at all except I hope he will treat people with a little more respect when he talks to them, if he doesn't I will adapt...I am talking about those who attack and judge other people's music and put's themselves above people, KillVehicle has not done that from what I have seen...you have no right what so ever to put words in my mouth or say how I feel about someone. My points about disrespectful comments came from different members entirely...so you are dead wrong and assuming the way you have you have puts me in a bad light that I do not deserve...perhaps you should keep your armchair physcoanalysis to yourself until you are sure you know what you are talking about, because you have not a clue this time what you are talking about.
Hink, I really do not understand your intentions. First, I am not spending my time reading all your postings on KVR. Killvehicle crossed my mind because I have unintentionally seen you two argue in at least 2 threads, and you have wrote some stuff similar to stuff in this thread. So I thought this is one of those things you are pointing at. I am not criticizing you, or Killvehicle, and as your post here was kind of rant, I came with positive intentions, at least giving advice of living and let go when person goes thru something that is not pleasent experience is in my world considered as good intention... But you somehow have arguing tone, and your every answer is toned like I am criticizing you, and like you have to defend something from me... So I really do not understand what you want to say. I have no issues with you and I have no bad words for you or Killvehicle or anyone else here.
If you wanted to point at something with "My points about disrespectful comments came from different members entirely..." maybe you should have been more direct. Also "Armchair analysis" end of your post is really hostile for no reason.
It is like I am sitting in bar and someone next to me starts to rant about not liking something, and keeps about it, but after my comment that I hope he will be ok, and that he does not need to waste his time energy and nerves on some things so he can feel better, in turn this guy comes with "fcuk off" attitude, and attacks me about putting my nose in his private life etc.
If I keep repeating that I have no bad intentions and you act like I am against you, well...What can I say...
Still I cant see why you thinked my behavoir is not nice. I cant understand why you dont see a good thing that someone is glad with his guitar tone and wants to share it with others. His opinion can be wrong but that is not excuse to bash him. But well, you said your reasons to do that. Cooky for tryng to emulate Van Halen sound?? You are wrong; I admire the damn Van Halen! It's a tone and guitar playing well known and for this reason I posted a try (good try) of gettin his tone. Are you visited my songclick page? Do you think the tones in the Quenn cover, the Van Halen 2, the Gary Moore tracks are bad? I think they are good, very good. I'm always talking about tone, not my playing. And maybe others can enjoy this plugin like I do.
Maybe you live in a very competitive and paranoid world, where everybody wants be number one?!

And thanks for the tablature, I almost have figured out the solo but the end of the first part, the arpeggio where Marty accelerate the playing (Marty's old technic to create a great sense of speed) it's the most hard to me to figure out.
Difference in cultures, internet communications... I just think that anyone should be sure to have any background when talking about something. I was criticizing your behaviour, not you personally, partly because I am recognizing this attitude often. I will visit your soundclick page later and mail you comments in a good will. It is just like I am not stating that some plugin EQ "Is same like a Pultec EQ" if I don't have enough experience mixing records with great hardware EQ's. And I am respecting the fact that a lot of people that do know their job think that their Hardware EQs sound better than software emulations, and in similar way I respect that someone does not have money to buy rack full of EQs or just needs good enough software soulution. It is just about respect and knowledge, it was kind of rude and like bashing all guitarists that have invested their time money and energy into developing their sound thru all these years when you have said it is all the same. Marty Freidman is very anal about his sound, and I remember that he commented once that Mustaine put big pressure on him because Dave is even more anal about sound.
Anyway I hope there is no hard feelings and that you will nail that Megadeth solo eventually!
sorry for quoting the whole thing but I'm lazy as hell, twas a long nite (and not in partying way)....chaulk it up to misunderstanding and it's in the past..;) I too have nothing against you, but I also didn't want it to start up something else with KillVehicle...there's enough strife everywhere...no need to add more...;)

sorry for "Armchair analysis"... :oops:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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Vervil wrote:player, but their sim was not succes because of other reasons...
sucking does have that effect :hihi:
check my profile for contact info.
msn messenger is my email as well.
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Wow! This thread has gotten waaaaaaaaay out of whack. Can't you guys take it to PM's?
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markdeaton wrote:Wow! This thread has gotten waaaaaaaaay out of whack. Can't you guys take it to PM's?
take what to PMs? it seems too me that everything is resolved :D
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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so...like...is Guitar Rig good or what?
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Ha. I rest my case.
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Have you seen the Dweezil Zappa plays GUITAR RIG 2 video? He says what I was trying to say here:

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.p ... g2press_us
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markdeaton wrote:Ha. I rest my case.
no I meant any issues off topic that should go tp PMs :roll: so VGs question was on topic...so I rest my case :P
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Jason Brian Merrill wrote:
Vervil wrote:player, but their sim was not succes because of other reasons...
sucking does have that effect :hihi:
:lol: Yes, I think it can be good plugin for oral pleasures and effects :o
so...like...is Guitar Rig good or what?
It's even better than the real thing!
take what to PMs? it seems too me that everything is resolved :D
Everything is ok
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