have you guys seen this ?

[iskandar]

in regards to audio quality output in hosts

http://src.infinitewave.ca

[UltraJv]

For more in depth analysis of DAW comparison :

http://www.3daudioinc.com/3db/forumdisplay.php?f=15

[obstgegenrechz]

did i misunderstand or are logic and apple soundtrack just not good lookin in this comparison?

[Sascha Franck]

What is the test from the first link doing?
Seems it's just dealing with sample rate conversion.
How often are you really doing such things? Personally, I almost never need to.

[iskandar]

click the help button down the bottom of the screen

[Sascha Franck]

Yeah, I've done that.
For normal day to day recording, these tests show nothing.

[obstgegenrechz]

the grafs show how the signal is treated by the software.
logic creates many 'mirror-frequencies' throughout the spectrum, what i think is not very good...
ain't no soundprofessional.... so i hope thats right

btw: funny to see r8brain free is very little better than r8brain pro

[Sascha Franck]

the grafs show how the signal is treated by the software.
logic creates many 'mirror-frequencies' throughout the spectrum, what i think is not very good...

The sample conversion quality of Logic is indeed very arguable (and its sample editor still looks like 8 years ago).
But, this test is about sample rate conversion. Usually you just don't deal with that a lot in daily life. Ok, you may be working at other samplerates than 44.1kHz. In that case you surely need some excellent 3rd party utility should you need to import files using other samplerates.

But, as far as my projects go, I'm just working in 44.1 all throughout. And most studios (unless they're into DVD authoring, surround movie scoring, SACD productions and whatever) seem to do so as well. 24bit/44.1kHz still seems to be the most commonly used format in 'plain' recording studios.
And once you need to work in other samplerates, I'm sure you can afford an external batch conversion utility as well.

That doesn't mean the sample editor in Logic shouldn't been improved. It's actually shite.
Heck, when you want proper timestretching and pitching you gotta license some external stuff... that's really lame.

All I'm saying is that, regardless of the used application, sample rate conversion isn't what you often find yourself dealing with while sequencing.

[whyterabbyt]

Usually you just don't deal with that a lot in daily life. Ok, you may be working at other samplerates than 44.1kHz. In that case you surely need some excellent 3rd party utility should you need to import files using other samplerates.

Deepends on how you work, IMO. If you source a lot of samples/loops/field recordings or whatever from other places then you may wind up doing a fair bit of it. But yeah, a third-party utility would be a good solution, although unfortunately one of the best of them (R8Brain) aint on the same platform as Logic.

[Sascha Franck]

Deepends on how you work, IMO. If you source a lot of samples/loops/field recordings or whatever from other places then you may wind up doing a fair bit of it.

True. And I've already been running into a similar situation where I had to combine two Logic projects, one using 48kHz, the other one being at 44.1.
I thought I'd just let Logic do the job, but what a freaking nightmare. Not only that the conversions sounded funny (not even close to what the testsite is showing, just messed up), but it's also that the files been all messed up timingwise (something you'd only expect if you did the conversion by simply pitching things up/down, oldskool Adat style or so...). Absolutely useless. I ended up having WaveLab do the job (which wasn't all too great either, but back then Voxengo didn't even exist).

But yeah, a third-party utility would be a good solution, although unfortunately one of the best of them (R8Brain) aint on the same platform as Logic.

Probably less of a problem these days, with BootCamp apparently running rather well. Happy days for Mac users, now they will finally have access to some reasonable audio editors.
I even just heard about something called "Parallels" or whatsoever, apparently allowing you to simultaneously boot into OSX and Win XP (nothing like Virtual PC but a "true" parallel boot). Gonna have a search for it...