SFEDT, Where do I get this program ?

[Turgal]

Looking for a program that can load files with the extension .sfp (packed sf2?). Seems like they are created with a program called SFEDT v1.28 according to the information in the header of the files; (it also mention Vienna, but can't load them into it)

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sfp àu¤    LISTÎ   INFOifil     INAM
   User Bank isng
   E-mu 10K1 IPRD   SBAWE32 IENG   Vienna Master ISFT   SFEDT v1.28:  ICRD   Jul 05, 2004  ICMT   Comments Not Present  ICOP"   Copyright Information Not Present 

I have tried sfpack, sfark etc. and none of them can unpack this format ... (if it is packed that is?) Renaming to .sf2 doesn't work either...

[BertKoor]

Better ask whomever you got the file from, since supposedly it's a PCL bitmap font

[Turgal]

Yes, if you do a search on the net, the .sfp format is a pcl bitmap font. However, these files are some kind of soundfont banks containing samples for the Soundburst Northmood VST plugin: http://www.soundburst.com/northmood.html

The reason I would like to load these banks in another 'player' is that in the Northmood I can't edit the ADSR, filter, modulation, etc (it's just a 'basic' sampleplayer and I have to say it really made me dissapointed).

Renaming the banks to .sf2 won't do the trick. The extension .sfp suggest that it is packed, or maybe even protected?. Just curious about the SFEDT program stated in the header of the file since it maybe can load the file?

A normal .sf2 file header doesnt differ much from the .sfp one :

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.SF2

RIFFˆ

[SampleScience]

No ADSR? It's sucks, even SynthEdit romplers have ADSR, I'm curious to know how much this Nord thing cost.

[Turgal]

I bought it from Thomann : http://www.thomann.de/thoiw2_index.html

For Swedes like me, it cost : 153.00 EUR, or 1440.01 SEK
UK : 143.00 EUR, or 98.67 GBP

[BertKoor]

Northmood is just a 'basic' sampleplayer and I have to say it really made me dissapointed.

Renaming the banks to .sf2 won't do the trick. The extension .sfp suggest that it is packed, or maybe even protected?. Just curious about the SFEDT program stated in the header of the file since it maybe can load the file?

Yes, I'd vote "propriety format" also so people that like the samples can't ditch that program easily. Big bummer...

It's worth a try to edit the file (better editor than NOtepad required!) and change SFP in the header into SF2. This would be one of the first things a program should do: chck weather it really is a soundfont.

If you still need a nice soundfontplayer / sampler, then try out SFZ. For free!

[bro. miles]

SFEDT is a dll file used by Vienna and other programs that edit soundfonts.

[Turgal]

@BertKoor : Tried to edit the header in a hex editor. Changed a few bytes to alot of bytes in the 'info' chunk of the header. Still no go

@bro, niles : Thanx for the info! Nothing special there then I guess ...

Will grab the SoundFont SDK and try to code a Pascal snippet to see if I can get any info about the samples in the file at all (by trial and error )

As long as I can extract the samples and the info about loop points it should be ok, since I don't care about the ADSR etc coded in the .sfp file.

[BertKoor]

grab the SoundFont SDK and try to code a Pascal snippet to see if I can get any info about the samples in the file at all (by trial and error )

As long as I can extract the samples and the info about loop points it should be ok, since I don't care about the ADSR etc coded in the .sfp file.

Right, that's the attitude Getting the samples can be done if they're not packed, loop info and which sample is in which velocity layer of which patch is a bit harder to hack out.