Behringer V-Verb Pro - a real Lexicon and TC Killer ?

[hifiboom]

*sigh* whatever, it's just not a valid comparison, and I won't argue any tech details cause you won't understand it (being dumb as you are, comparing impulses to an algo reverb) and from the presets I tried at the behringerpage, it's nothing to get exited about, my old tc m300 smokes the V-Verb "pro"

I think you are dumb.

Every comparsion if it wasn't Lexicon 960L vs Lexicon 960L would be senseless, as they all have different algos...
This is a matter of taste....

You don't own a V-Verb, so stay with your TC M300,

I have a TC M3000 demo sound CD, which I ordered form TC homepage and this thing does not sound much realistic.... It just sounds to synthetic and will never fit well in a mix.....

So the V-Verb smokes everything from Tc in a pipe.....

[waiting man]

isn't the v-verb a boxed convolution verb with a twist?

[hifiboom]

you can read some other user reviews here....

http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/ ... Pro-1.html

especially this opinion:
"The reverb I have listened to are very warm and very good.


I compared it to lexicon mpx550(close call)and tcelectronic m300 (not sounding as warm as the behringer. Playing a violin that's very important to me).
So I liked the Behringer best.
I bet there are people who'd say I'm nuts, but I just liked it.
Price sounds good too. That helps.


The rev2496's noise was inaudible using today's mixing desk."

[hifiboom]

isn't the v-verb a boxed convolution verb with a twist?

defenitly not....

you can change every parameter, there are also some presets where you can change the sound source with threee parameters:

front , middle, back and you can easily hear the difference if you close your eyes....

I now many reverb units and plug-ins that have many paramters which don't have the desired effect on sound....

[Compyfox]

No COAX, great. And sorry that say this, the demos on the page aren't really that promising but rather give that usual "Behringer is crap" image, even though they made some good mixers (BCR/BCF and the digital mixer desk which is way cheaper than a Yamaha one, but sounds just as good).

[snooky]

*sigh* whatever, it's just not a valid comparison, and I won't argue any tech details cause you won't understand it (being dumb as you are, comparing impulses to an algo reverb) and from the presets I tried at the behringerpage, it's nothing to get exited about, my old tc m300 smokes the V-Verb "pro"

I think you are dumb.

Every comparsion if it wasn't Lexicon 960L vs Lexicon 960L would be senseless, as they all have different algos...
This is a matter of taste....

You don't own a V-Verb, so stay with your TC M300,

I have a TC M3000 demo sound CD, which I ordered form TC homepage and this thing does not sound much realistic.... It just sounds to synthetic and will never fit well in a mix.....

So the V-Verb smokes everything from Tc in a pipe.....

sheesh, I could by a frikkin' V-verb in an instant if I wanted to, but I don't see how it's justified since it isn't any better than any software reverb - and how can you say that a tc3000 demo CD give you a good aproximation of the sounds of a tc3000...
man you are just delusional deluxe!

go away prick...take your behringer with you.

[waiting man]

isn't the v-verb a boxed convolution verb with a twist?

defenitly not....

you can change every parameter, there are also some presets where you can change the sound source with threee parameters:

front , middle, back and you can easily hear the difference if you close your eyes....

I now many reverb units and plug-ins that have many paramters which don't have the desired effect on sound....

have you ever tried Pristine Space?
having 1-3 parameters doesn't make it a 100% algo reverb..
in the meanwhile I found an FM review stating that convolution is implemented.

[sonicfire]

i want that one, hell yeah who cares about big names? what comes out is what matters

[waiting man]

I personally don't care about names and I was interested in the item, months ago.

[hifiboom]

isn't the v-verb a boxed convolution verb with a twist?

defenitly not....

you can change every parameter, there are also some presets where you can change the sound source with threee parameters:

front , middle, back and you can easily hear the difference if you close your eyes....

I now many reverb units and plug-ins that have many paramters which don't have the desired effect on sound....

have you ever tried Pristine Space?
having 1-3 parameters doesn't make it a 100% algo reverb..
in the meanwhile I found an FM review stating that convolution is implemented.

show me that review....

I've worked with WAVES IR, SIR and Pristine Space and I know that some convolution reverbs give you some paramters, which in most situations do not help to much....
The V-Verb has up to 30 parameters, I won't say that it is not convolution ... but I am sure it isn't....

Just have a look on your own into the manual on Behringer homepage:
http://www.behringerdownload.de/REV2496 ... _Rev_A.zip

I won't go into detail, but the unit does have many parameters, that all do what you expect of them, even with diffusion at 1 the reverb sounds good and does not sound cheap (you can set it up to 30)

[hifiboom]

sheesh, I could by a frikkin' V-verb in an instant if I wanted to, but I don't see how it's justified since it isn't any better than any software reverb

totally wrong, I've tried nearly every software reverb that you can buy... none comes close to what this unit sounds like. (only CSR seems to be a usable high-quality tool)
How can you say something like that, you have never had one.
Only dealers may pray that the Big ones sound better, because they earn much more money with the big players...

- and how can you say that a tc3000 demo CD give you a good aproximation of the sounds of a tc3000...

Well, what else would represent a unit, if not the manufaturers own demo CD of that unit....

Just a very stupid comment from your side, you seem to judge the V-Verb over the Demo sounds on their homepage.

go away prick...take your behringer with you.

you are an ignorant fool, not able to discuss something on normal level....

so go on and stay with you software reverbs....

[egbert]

Geez guys - give the rest of us a break.

STFU with all this unedifying ignant 'n shit!

[waiting man]

show me that review....

firstly, calm the f**k down and be gentle.
I'm not implying that the machine sucks or you are an idiot, ok?

I searched through some of my FMs (I even made some sweat to find it) and couldn't find it. BUT...I generally don't go around inventing shite, so cut this challenging tone and add a "please", choirboy.

chances are:
-not the v-verb but maybe another latest behringer rack'd verb uses irs. (but I remember V-Verb name and being myself a gearslut...)

-the review may be on Music Tech, I can give you that. both mags are WC lectures for me and I consider them more or less the same.

so, I remember the review, ok? it's fuckin' there.
they mentioned irs AND parameters, point.

now it would be great if any fm reader could confirm this.

[waiting man]

I can remember more.
it has a mixed technology. they are irs but they're modelled, not captured.
two processes, one for the early reflection and the other for the rest (tail, etc.)

the mag remains a mistery, though.

[snooky]

hm....

perhaps it's worth investingating this unit - I still don't belive for a second it beats a 1000+ bux TC box