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hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:08 am

WoJ wrote:Sure, how much something cost's is obviously going to reflect how its going to sound.

WoJ

exactly what I want to say...

When the LEx units first came out, the processing power was extremly expensive and so the price was a fact due to high producing costs....

Today manufacturers can easily buy DSP s with extremly power for low cost.

But Lexicon(and the other big reverb players) still sell for super-high prices, because they think they have the special algo!

So who sucks more in 2006?
The bigger players like Lexicon or Behringer

@snooky: I don't need your precocious comments, because I think I have much more knowledge about reverbs than you do have....

Treeper · Post by **Treeper** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:03 am

Thanks for your examples hifi...

Could I ask to hear this example http://www.artsacoustic.com/samples/21greek_dry.mp3
through the Behringer?

I'm looking for an effect similar to the 1st or last example produced by the arts acoustic here:
http://www.artsacoustic.com/samples/22g ... ations.mp3

I don't blame you if you can't be arsed to do it - but it would be cool to compare it to one of the best vst reverbs out there...

Cheers

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:23 am

lex_strooder wrote: give me a pure sound and i do some process for you within a week or so...

Is that because you need the reverb tail to ring out properly?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:52 am

I just used one of my self-generated presets, but you may get a completly other sound with the next preset and so on...

I know the Arts Acoustic Reverbs quite good, its very good for software ...
I also was in email contact with the german developers what features I miss.

They are very friendly and nice guys...

The AA has some Chorus Like effects behind which I don't like to much...

You can also do this with the VVerb in Serial Combination mode, where you switch a Chorus in front or behind the Reverb....

The reverb itself on the vverb hast more transparency and more deepness...
hard to explain....
listen on your own:
http://home.arcor.de/soundspace1/reverb ... 0vverb.mp3

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:20 am

with chorus in front
http://home.arcor.de/soundspace1/reverb/chorus.mp3

Sammas · Post by **Sammas** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:30 am

Sounds ok, but so far you have only proven that it sounds better than a bunch of average impulses that are circulating the internet. Those impulses are pretty average even compared to professional impulses like the ones included with altiverb.

Comparing it to demos of other units found on websites seems pretty inconclusive. The demo's of the V-Verb on the Behringer website sound substancially worse than those that you have posted... Actually pretty much every demo I've ever heard on the internet doesn't do a reverb unit complete justice.

Interesting thread, but very inconclusive at best.

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:21 am

Here is something interesting
http://sound-on-sound2.infopop.net/2/Op ... =656107782

anapol25 · Post by **anapol25** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:46 am

Can you use it like two separate reverbs in SX3 (since it is dual)???

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:18 am

Sammas wrote:Sounds ok, but so far you have only proven that it sounds better than a bunch of average impulses that are circulating the internet. Those impulses are pretty average even compared to professional impulses like the ones included with altiverb.

Comparing it to demos of other units found on websites seems pretty inconclusive. The demo's of the V-Verb on the Behringer website sound substancially worse than those that you have posted... Actually pretty much every demo I've ever heard on the internet doesn't do a reverb unit complete justice.

Interesting thread, but very inconclusive at best.

No!

I have proven that it can sound as good as a Quantec Yardstick which is one of the best reverbs ever build....
Thats not a stupid impulse response....

You have just proven that you are not able to read a thread successfully....

Try again

I think I ll stop that very soon, as KVR is a total flame forum with many dumb people ...

So I do not have to prove anything nor do you have to buy anything...
So what is the problem with this thread...?

I really don't know....

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:39 am

anapol25 wrote:Can you use it like two separate reverbs in SX3 (since it is dual)???

Yes, have a look into the manual on Behringer homepage

suthnear · Post by **suthnear** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:43 am

hifiboom,

thanks heaps for this: I was about to buy either AA or W2 but I think I'll go and check this out first. My poor puter is overtaxed as it is...

Treeper · Post by **Treeper** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:35 am

Thanks for the demo hifiboom - I appreciate it.
Putting the chorus in front got closer to the AA sound.
At current prices, and for 0 cpu I think the Behringer is well worth a try.

Cheers

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:40 am

hifiboom wrote:I have proven that it can sound as good as a Quantec Yardstick which is one of the best reverbs ever build....

Proven eh? Mathematical proof was it?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:50 am

nuffink wrote:
hifiboom wrote:I have proven that it can sound as good as a Quantec Yardstick which is one of the best reverbs ever build....
Proven eh? Mathematical proof was it?

????

man, use your ears....

u need the reverb for music and mixing and not for mathematical proofing.

If it sounds like, it is like....

Is this a mathematical proofed reverb? yes it is, but it sounds like shit...no matter what, we will use it in this production....

you are joking...

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:52 am

hifiboom wrote:
nuffink wrote:
hifiboom wrote:I have proven that it can sound as good as a Quantec Yardstick which is one of the best reverbs ever build....
Proven eh? Mathematical proof was it?
????

use your ears....

u need the reverb for music and mixing and not fro mathematical proofing.

If it sounds like, it is like....

Don't talk about proof though. Because it's silly in the context of how a reverb sounds. Very silly.

Behringer V-Verb Pro - a real Lexicon and TC Killer ?