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JeffSanders · Post by **JeffSanders** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:29 pm

I hate seeing other people acting happy and excited as much as the next guy, but sheesh...

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:54 pm

BorrelNote wrote:
if you really care - then don't go in overdrive-hypemode about stuf.
If you really care then please get a life and don't post on KVR... you have no idea how obnoxious you are...

moi?? I don't care about shit...

I say, that was very obnoxious of you to make such a remark!!

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:44 pm

snooky is adorable when he's angry.

he's totally harmless when you remember to give him a good kick every once in a while.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:49 pm

I'm not angry, not in the slightest - just those punks wanna be all cool and think they can mock me

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:50 pm

they who don't even know a reverb from a compressor or a bikiniwax.

lateralus778 · Post by **lateralus778** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:03 am

To hifiboom:
i'm still confused. If the Behringer is a "TC/Lexicon killer", then why did you compare it to a Convolution plugin? They're different right? Just like hardware synths are different from soft-synths. Shouldnt you have compared it to a TC or Lexicon in the demos?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:52 am

I called it "TC/Lexicon killer" consiedering its price....

Look a better TC easily costs around 1600€, a PCM91 abround 2300€

They do deliver you rich lush, dense, never-smearing reverb.

The V-Verb does the same, maybe it sounds sligtly other than a PCM91, .... but it sounds just very good. And that for only 130€

So is it better in terms of sound? no it is in the same league...

So who is better, I don't know....

But for its bang for the buck ratio the V-Verb is clearly the best, although some people keep telling behringer only produces shit.

And look for the price you only may get a simple plug-in. I just wanted to show... as first step that the V-Verb sound better than convolution, which I always did not like too much...but some people keep telling convolution is btter and more realistic than any reverb...

The thread was considered as question ... but I have forgotten the questionmark behind the thread title at first. (mybe simply misleading)

I wanted to discuss this with user users, what they do think about the soundquality...

But there wasn't too much useful input with other users trying to reproduce sounds etc....

invitia · Post by **invitia** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:31 am

Give hifiboom a break. He is happy to found a good cheap hardware reverb and suddenly people start pissing on his parade.

Hifiboom, juts to shut up some of the guys camplaining. Just make a convolution impulse using your REV2496. Run the same loop though it as you've done with the PCM91/TC3000 impulses and then noone can blame you for comparing apples to grapes.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:33 am

Another Test mto show how good it sounds:

This is a german Test of CSR Reverb
http://www.amazona.de/content/musictool ... b/csr.html

Here they compare the Reverb from 3 different reverbs
http://www.amazona.de/content/musictool ... _tc_lx.mp3
First CSR, than TC Powercore Classic Verb and than Lexicon 960

I used th GoldPlate algorithmus to recreate this Hall with flattering Early reflections...

listen here is the V-Verb demo....
http://home.arcor.de/bdk2003/vverb/amazon%20drums.mp3

And a second one slightly other settings...

http://home.arcor.de/bdk2003/vverb/amaz ... ate-01.mp3

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:34 am

invitia wrote:Give hifiboom a break. He is happy to found a good cheap hardware reverb and suddenly people start pissing on his parade.

Hifiboom, juts to shut up some of the guys camplaining. Just make a convolution impulse using your REV2496. Run the same loop though it as you've done with the PCM91/TC3000 impulses and then noone can blame you for comparing apples to grapes.

not a bad idea...
thx

what is the standard sound to create a impulse file?

white noise or a shot?
and source on the i-net?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:00 pm

even more precise one after tuning a litttle more .... Diffusion at 5 (max 30)

http://home.arcor.de/bdk2003/vverb/amaz ... ate-02.mp3

so what is this modeled after when some presets call like Hall 960 etc and you listen to these sound examples and compare it with real 960 sounds...

good value....

look these are no comparisions to convolution reverbs...

spuddle · Post by **spuddle** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:59 pm

You get sexual thrills from verbed drum hits don't you?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:40 pm

spuddle wrote:You get sexual thrills from verbed drum hits don't you?

jeah ...

lateralus778 · Post by **lateralus778** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:51 pm

As a drummer; I've found the V-Verb to be exceptionally useful, especially live. I used to find my drums sounding dry and they lacked alot of punch, so i just add some reverb and BAM! It's crazy. Although keep in mind that the main reverbs i had been using before came from a Line6 POD. I personally dont like Line6 reverbs (aside from PODxt and Verbzilla, which are great) because with my playing style, they bleed alot. It sounds like pure decapitation.
Hmm... great idea for an experimental piece... be back in a few! haha

JonnySun 2.0 · Post by **JonnySun 2.0** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:16 pm

Nice thread, thanks for this hint and suggestion to hifiboom. 130 Euro is very good price. so, If buying 3 of them i can use 6 instances at the same time, right? Three units would cost 390 Euro, that's cheaper than a vss-3 for a powercore-card.

But, it's a shame, i only have s/Pdif In/output free with my ewx 24/96. So, only 2 instances possible at the same time. But for that price 2 high quality reverb instances, good deal.

Soundexamples are nice but i tend to test it in my own studio. Everyone should do it.

Behringer V-Verb Pro - a real Lexicon and TC Killer ?