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kylen · Post by **kylen** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:25 pm

I'm just now learning Electri-Q and am also a GlissEQ owner. I have also just recently gotten into the restoration side of remastering so I am having to listen to frequency balance and EQs a little differntly now and consider sharp steep cuts and gains a normal days work - instead of just a shelf or HP/LP here and there on a really fine mix.

Anyway Electri-Q 1.5 just popped up at the right time and when I finish learning it I'll go back to GlissEQ/HarmoniEQ and see what I can do there and how they compare.

Here's a couple of things about Electri-Q:
* It's feature packed - read the great manual and right click on an EQ node (hold it for about ~500ms) then pick your jaw up off the desk.
* It has transient filters for a type of dynamic EQ - don't know how this compares to Gliss yet.
* It has phase filters - don't know how this compares to HarmoniEQ yet.
* It has 2 different harmonic filters besides 2 general Harmonic modes
* It has a simple outer interface with a lot of things going on under the sheets which the user can access - kind of a 2nd level of control panel for us tweakers!
* It is fast to get a good sound and you can get a really good sound after that pretty quick too (once you understand your options). Try that with Sonalksis DQ1 - it's not fast at all in my hands.
* Cumulative EQ - unless I've misread this "Maximum Phase" mode does something similar to the way Har-Bal constructs a single frequency response from all the individual EQ nodes. It is a single spline EQ curve that represents all of your individual changes (is that right Christian?). Like CurveEQ too I guess. I might be wrong about that - or have an incomplete picture of this piece.

Besides all that Christian gave us a very cool VST Tool - the VST plugin analyzer so we can see how phase and amplitude are affected by certain plugins. Thanks Christian. I learned a little something about how BBE Sonicmaximizer,PLPar3 (AllPass),Electri-Q (Allpass), PsychoPhaser affect phase vs amplitude at various frequencies...very interesting.

2cents

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:38 pm

GlissEQ is a bread and butter EQ

More versatile then Electri-Q because of his features. I use GlissEQ on every track, often with the dynamic features turned on. It gives better results for pushing bass or bringing more brilliance to VSTs. There is no other EQ (besides Sonalksis DQ1) where you can do this.

GlissEQ is low on CPU-usage and can be used as a normal track-EQ on every track and as a mastering EQ. Its the best EQ I ever bought. I always own Elemtal Audio Eqium, Hydratone and the Trackplug (WaveArts). If you dont need more then 5 bands, you can't do nothing wrong with GlissEQ

sounddesigner · Post by **sounddesigner** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:52 pm

I 've been demoing Electri-Q and to me it is good but not great, i was not very impressed by its sound. My evaluation is'nt the best because i only spent a little time demoing it but off first impression i am not wowed.
But i probably would be inclined to buy it if i did'nt own enough eq's already and if i was on a small budget (usually i am). Right now because i have several eq's already a eq 'really' has to impress me to buy it, and i did'nt get that with electri-q despite all the filters,modes,discounted price etc. It does'nt have that special something in its sound that i look for (wich is subjective). EQ's that almost made me buy them in recent times would be sonic timeworks equalizer v1 (yummy), kjaerhus geq-7, and uad-1 neve 1073.These eq's where eye openers to me. an eq really has to top what i have in order for me to buy it and so far in my eyes nothing in the small budget range has topped voxengo's,plpareq and uad's.I admitt my evaluation of Electri-q was not thorough but i have a short attention span.

justjazz · Post by **justjazz** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:12 pm

martian · Post by **martian** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:34 pm

sounddesigner · Post by **sounddesigner** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:56 pm

justjazz wrote:sounddesigner - when you talk about voxengo's sound, are you referring to harmonieq or glisseq? Even to my ears harmonieq has a very magic sound, but I don't think it would be useful as a track eq. glisseq to me is just a straight eq - I don't hear much except for what I'm asking it to do (boost/cut).

Harmonieq is my most favorite out all of the big three voxengo eq's, their all great in their own way to me.

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:11 am

I compared Electri-Q against my GlissEQ last night. I am no golden eared expert and my speakers are not the greatest but I was pretty happy with GlissEQ. And I really don't need to overlap on EQ vsts.

Havings said that, I wish I knew this yesterday.

kylen wrote:right click on an EQ node (hold it for about ~500ms) then pick your jaw up off the desk.

sounddesigner · Post by **sounddesigner** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:04 am

After doing a more thorough and "double blinded" test with similar settings on both eq's it appears to be not much of a difference between gliss eq and electri-q so i deleted much of my last post. out of curiousity i plan to test them both later once i rest up my ears.

sounddesigner · Post by **sounddesigner** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:42 pm

electri-q seems to be a decent eq but i definitely prefer the sound of gliss in the end.electri was a little better then i thought but as i put both eq's on different material today i definitely prefer glisseq's sound.

Alien Leg · Post by **Alien Leg** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:07 pm

Thanx for your opinions!

Concerning a comparison of CPU usage:

Electri-Q digital eco (non eco) mode has to be compared to Glisseq normal (high) quality, is that right?
If so, then Electri-Q is much better on CPU!

Aleksey Vaneev · Post by **Aleksey Vaneev** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:15 pm

Alien Leg, do not forget to enable Dyn 0 when comparing. And, of course, close the user interface.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:09 am

are you suggesting they have a nicer UI?

Seriously though, I bought it and not Gliss EQ, although I have never directly a/b'ed them.
I found the options in Electri-Q are so extensive, that I must find what I want in it.
It sounded fine to my ears and most importatly, I could figure my way around it in fifteen minutes. Easy to navigate, no esoteric named terms or acronyms, plus they had a great group buy price..
I have no argument that probably Gliss Eq may sound better, but like I have said in several times before a GUI is important for me..... I own two voxego's pristine light and elephant.
I rarely use pristine light because SIR and ConvoBoy are so so so much easier to work with, and sound good enough for my work. I use Elephant constantly, primarily because it has many presets that get me 80% there and there are not too many parameters to confuse, but that I can tweak for my tasks. I would buy way more voxengo's stuff not if it was necessarily prettier, but had a much easier to navigate GUI for a non-tweaker like myself. They get a bad name on so many forums, and I do believe they are overpriced, but Waves has gotten GUI's correct. I can open ANY waves plug in for the first time and figure my way around it in five minutes or less. For me that is important.
rsp

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:28 am

zvenx wrote:are you suggesting they have a nicer UI?

No, he's suggesting that the gui uses cpu.

Aleksey Vaneev · Post by **Aleksey Vaneev** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:15 pm

...and if I'm not mistaken, ElectriQ is 2 times less efficient than similar GlissEQ setup (at Dyn 0 of course).

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:24 pm

I ran a comparison gliss eq demo vs. posifohpit a few weeks ago.
Difficult to judge fairly coclusively, given the different modes etc.

GlissEQ vs. Electri-Q