FreeAmp2 beta testing started

[Jason Brian Merrill]

free does not nessecarily equal good.... i can give you a turd for free too... but i dont expect you would get any good sounds out of it.
anyway, i dont mean to call freeamp a turd, i just want to know how to get some more open, real sounds, instead of the mud that i am getting from it.

but yes, a tuner plugin is a nice idea.

No, your doing it again right now..."crap"..."turd". It's a free amp sim. It does clean through lead tones better than a lot of commercially available stuff. It doesn't seem to do white-trash chug to your spec's, so move on. You ARE bashing it.

white trash chug eh???



i would bash you, but i dont need to, you do a great job of it yourself.

OK, I'm going to try out this handy mute feature. Have a good one. CHUGGA CHUGGAA CHUG CHUG

you made my day.

and I think i am setting a record

the most anal people to mute me in one day.

[TotcProductions]

Now now...fight nice children.

[FrettedSynth]

Now now...fight nice children.

Was about to say the same thing Don't expect all will like FreeAmp's tones, I would at that point say I'm done this is it and "everyone is going to have to get this one" Last time I checked myselfs mind I think I said it will GROW which means no its not done yet there is still very much I would like to implement (In the synth bigtime) And I think I said there would be more amps, speakers and drives?

This is v2.0 Never said there would be no v9.0

Have a good time! that is what I would most like to see people do with FreeAmp ? not much to ask? If you don't like it there is always "Delete" But good discussion have learned much from it already

Fretted Synth

[Hovmod]

Aw.
So I'll have to wait with my newfound FR until next release?

OK

Wasn't a biggie.

I love playing with it, and I'm sure I'll find good uses for it.

Thank you very much indeed!

[grymmjack]

I wonder if it would be possible to add in the future a convolution module to FreeAmp2? This way we can add to the variety of tones, among other things. May be big on CPU, but most convolutions are.

Just an idea.

Brent

brent, wouldn't it be more logical to add a bypass to the amp/cab instead -- that way cpu is not an issue and the convolution can be passed into the other parts that people would want to use?

dunno, i have no idea if that would even work, but i dont want more CPU consuming stuff hardcoded into FA2, i'd prefer to have options and modular toggles.

[Mutant]

wouldn't it be more logical to add a bypass to the amp/cab instead -- that way cpu is not an issue and the convolution can be passed into the other parts that people would want to use?

Exactly !!!

[Jason Brian Merrill]

Now now...fight nice children.

Was about to say the same thing Don't expect all will like FreeAmp's tones, I would at that point say I'm done this is it and "everyone is going to have to get this one" Last time I checked myselfs mind I think I said it will GROW which means no its not done yet there is still very much I would like to implement (In the synth bigtime) And I think I said there would be more amps, speakers and drives?

This is v2.0 Never said there would be no v9.0

Have a good time! that is what I would most like to see people do with FreeAmp ? not much to ask? If you don't like it there is always "Delete" But good discussion have learned much from it already

Fretted Synth

exactly. no need to get sensitive or defensive. It is all constructive critique and thats how it all works

[grymmjack]

it's getting funny again now.

'good tone' is very subjective. i can achieve a pretty good bluesy sounding tone, a great clean sound, some great leads, and a good gain sound (atleast to my oldschool butt0x). so i like this and all that happy crappy. these tones are probably not going to be what others like, but i don't give a rats ass about that tbh, it's about what i want it to sound like and i'm not trying to emulate anything fancy here, just basic stuff.

i don't think it's very productive or useful to spar about ones opinion over anothers. muddy, GC (what does that mean?), blablabla, it seriously all starts to turn into a pissing contest about OPINIONs. it is charlie browns teacher on the phone.. wah wuh wuh wuhwuhwuhwuh wuh.

jbm; considering that FA2 was built by an oldschooler, it's going to have that oldschool flavor that a great many people dig, while obviously the nuskool people will about. this is fine right? i mean, it's fair to have diversity and things that excel at certain 'feels' etc? if you don't like it, i'd say don't use it. no one will have hurt feelings about it, it's not intended to be the be-all-end-all every-sound-possible kind of plug, it's intended to do what it currently does, and it pulls that off pretty damned well.

it's all so inane and banal now. we've gone over this tone debate for pages in this beta thread and the conclusions have been made, so can we all move on and keep testing this? joe has mentioned it's a evolution in progress, which means he is open minded about making adjustments and changes.

go ahead and delete the DLL if it's causing you grief of this magnitude though, it's clear that those who aren't into the current sound it can make aren't going to find it somewhere secretly locked up inside, atleast in it's current state. maybe it's best to just give up and stop wasting time trying to get blood from a stone, and dial in for instant gratification with your AT2, AT1, GR2, or pod*.*'s

your absence certainly wont bother any of us i can assure you, and i'm not saying that in a mean or cruel way, just a fact of the matter fashion as one would state the current time: "it's 7:07 PM eastern standard time"

[guitarzan]

So, how does Warp and to a lesser extent, the POD do that speaker distortion/cabinet sag thing? It can't be with static convolution - the sag/bloom thing can be aproximated with two compressors set to push/pull the signal, but there seems to be more to it than that.

I've had Warp kicking around for years unused until it came up recently in another thread. I had never really noticed how well it does do that speaker distortion stuff. I don't really like the overall tone of Warp that much - but the speaker simulation in it is pretty convincing. I don't know of any other VST that does that kind of dynamic speaker emulation, it sure would be nice to have that in FreeAmp.

[grymmjack]

my favorite speaker in FA is the last in the list, the green one.

[chaibuka]

it was already mentioned but I also think a global way to turn of the gate would be nice. Is there much difference between beta 2 and beta 3?

[Jason Brian Merrill]

EDIT

not worth it.


ok but maybe a bit toned down

it's getting funny again now.

'good tone' is very subjective. i can achieve a pretty good bluesy sounding tone, a great clean sound, some great leads, and a good gain sound (atleast to my oldschool butt0x). so i like this and all that happy crappy. these tones are probably not going to be what others like, but i don't give a rats ass about that tbh, it's about what i want it to sound like and i'm not trying to emulate anything fancy here, just basic stuff.

i don't think it's very productive or useful to spar about ones opinion over anothers. muddy, GC (what does that mean?), blablabla, it seriously all starts to turn into a pissing contest about OPINIONs. it is charlie browns teacher on the phone.. wah wuh wuh wuhwuhwuhwuh wuh.

jbm; considering that FA2 was built by an oldschooler, it's going to have that oldschool flavor that a great many people dig, while obviously the nuskool people will about. this is fine right? i mean, it's fair to have diversity and things that excel at certain 'feels' etc? if you don't like it, i'd say don't use it. no one will have hurt feelings about it, it's not intended to be the be-all-end-all every-sound-possible kind of plug, it's intended to do what it currently does, and it pulls that off pretty damned well.

it's all so inane and banal now. we've gone over this tone debate for pages in this beta thread and the conclusions have been made, so can we all move on and keep testing this? joe has mentioned it's a evolution in progress, which means he is open minded about making adjustments and changes.

go ahead and delete the DLL if it's causing you grief of this magnitude though, it's clear that those who aren't into the current sound it can make aren't going to find it somewhere secretly locked up inside, atleast in it's current state. maybe it's best to just give up and stop wasting time trying to get blood from a stone, and dial in for instant gratification with your AT2, AT1, GR2, or pod*.*'s

your absence certainly wont bother any of us i can assure you, and i'm not saying that in a mean or cruel way, just a fact of the matter fashion as one would state the current time: "it's 7:07 PM eastern standard time"

I still say you all are so amazingly sensitive about this all...

Its not causing me any grief -- I just showed interest and wanted to try out a nice offering (free, wow!)

you think i want instant gratification? Well, funny. I actually just want an amp sim that sounds decent, without alot of tweaking. Then what you can do is tweak further and fine tune that tone until its perfect, just like a real amp. perhaps you can show me a clip of your blues tones -- something with life to it. IMO freeamp just sounds like garbage no matter what you do. And i have yet to have heard anything to the contrary.

Im oldskool AND nuskool. I like em both. From elvis to opeth .... Elvis in the mud or Opeth in the mud, either sounds like crap. Oldschool or "nuskool" it doesnt matter. mud is mud.

Im offering my constructive criticism and never meant to cause anyone any emotional stress and apparently i am causing it....

All im asking is for tips on how to get a halfway decent sound, or a preset, or a clip or something.

just show me what you love so much about freeamp... i dont see it... it would rock to have a usable free ampsim vst.

[matthewjumps]

actually, i think quite the opposite. I think this tone that you are showing here would be muddy in or out of a mix.

this tone is a bit trebly, but it shows openness that i have not been able to get with freeamp

http://stashbox.org/uploads/1152733150/ ... ll%201.MP3

its using 2 very similar plexi sounds -- its just normalized in cool edit. to me, its a sort of "AC/DC" type of tone.
I will post something more metal in a bit.
EDIT: I notice i screwed up one of the chords at the end... dont pick at my playing!!! im just showing a sound... hehe.

can you please post two clean wavs of you playing that (one for left one for right) so we can have a go at recreating the sound with FreeAmp?

[Jason Brian Merrill]

actually, i think quite the opposite. I think this tone that you are showing here would be muddy in or out of a mix.

this tone is a bit trebly, but it shows openness that i have not been able to get with freeamp

http://stashbox.org/uploads/1152733150/ ... ll%201.MP3

its using 2 very similar plexi sounds -- its just normalized in cool edit. to me, its a sort of "AC/DC" type of tone.
I will post something more metal in a bit.
EDIT: I notice i screwed up one of the chords at the end... dont pick at my playing!!! im just showing a sound... hehe.

can you please post two clean wavs of you playing that (one for left one for right) so we can have a go at recreating the sound with FreeAmp?

yay! finally a constructive response.

Sure, i will in a bit

[koolkeys]

I think this is great for me. I am a newer electric guitar player(thanks to Grymmjack!) and it's provided me a very good way to experiment. I love it. My wife and I are having to save right now and buying a good amp isn't an option, or GR2 or AT2.

But for FSA to provide something like this to me FOR FREE, I couldn't be happier. Something about it makes me WANT to play my guitar.

I've heard a Marshall, but can't tell you exactly what it sounds like. I hope to learn, and probably will, as I'll be starting some work with some people soon on a sample library where it may come into play.

But to me, this is awesome. It SOUNDS good to me. Thank you to all who are involved.

Brent