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TotcProductions TotcProductions https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6202
- KVRAF
- 5152 posts since 5 Mar, 2003 from Franklin, NH
C'mon JBM, you can't say finally....I've been asking you do to that this entire time. 
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- KVRian
- 877 posts since 9 May, 2005
What's your input chain...Jason Brian Merrill wrote:it just all seems very muddy to me.
Not all 1/4" inputs are created equal when it comes to recording DI guitar.
What's the impedence of your input? The higher the better.
As an example, the Emu 1820m has great fidelity... but it doesn't cope well with DI guitar recording from the 1/4" inputs. (Impedence is too low and that robs all the top end sparkle and makes the bottom end loose/flabby and 'honkey' sounding)
I'm not saying that soft amp sims are a perfect solution...
But a LOT of folks don't realize that the above is a MAJOR factor.
A quick example: If you listen to GR2 (or any of the amp sim software) while playing thru the Emu's 1/4" inputs... and compare the same preset when running thru the 1/4" instrument input on a M-Audio 1814, you'll notice a WORLD of difference. The DI guitar sounds good thru the 1814... and dull/lifeless thru the Emu. Simply a matter of impedence... (has nothing to do with the converters/fidelity of the interface - the Emu actually has better fidelity)
The 1814 instrument input was specifically designed for DI guitar/bass... and it's a very audible difference.
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
You really have. I remember it. Maybe he didn't see it in the middle of all the other stuff.TotcProductions wrote:C'mon JBM, you can't say finally....I've been asking you do to that this entire time.
I'm a witness though, several pages ago!
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- KVRian
- 534 posts since 22 Mar, 2006 from Adelaide, Australia
well when he does post the clean audio - its up to us to show him that freeamp is very capable 
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Jason Brian Merrill Jason Brian Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=87372
- KVRAF
- 2694 posts since 11 Nov, 2005 from http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Massena,+NY --(on the Canadian border)
TotcProductions wrote:C'mon JBM, you can't say finally....I've been asking you do to that this entire time.
Im sorry
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Jason Brian Merrill Jason Brian Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=87372
- KVRAF
- 2694 posts since 11 Nov, 2005 from http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Massena,+NY --(on the Canadian border)
I would never use the inputs of the 1820m for guitar...Jim Roseberry wrote:What's your input chain...Jason Brian Merrill wrote:it just all seems very muddy to me.
Not all 1/4" inputs are created equal when it comes to recording DI guitar.
What's the impedence of your input? The higher the better.
As an example, the Emu 1820m has great fidelity... but it doesn't cope well with DI guitar recording from the 1/4" inputs. (Impedence is too low and that robs all the top end sparkle and makes the bottom end loose/flabby and 'honkey' sounding)
I'm not saying that soft amp sims are a perfect solution...
But a LOT of folks don't realize that the above is a MAJOR factor.
A quick example: If you listen to GR2 (or any of the amp sim software) while playing thru the Emu's 1/4" inputs... and compare the same preset when running thru the 1/4" instrument input on a M-Audio 1814, you'll notice a WORLD of difference. The DI guitar sounds good thru the 1814... and dull/lifeless thru the Emu. Simply a matter of impedence... (has nothing to do with the converters/fidelity of the interface - the Emu actually has better fidelity)
The 1814 instrument input was specifically designed for DI guitar/bass... and it's a very audible difference.
My signal path is
guitar.podxt.USB.PC.
so, its the same exact signal the podxt gets. parfait for any reamping challenge
I will post it in a bit, im really hungry!!!!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1166 posts since 19 Apr, 2004
Nah! no stressJason Brian Merrill wrote: Im offering my constructive criticism and never meant to cause anyone any emotional stressand apparently i am causing it....
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TotcProductions TotcProductions https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6202
- KVRAF
- 5152 posts since 5 Mar, 2003 from Franklin, NH
Oh yeah, forgot to post this....somebody said something about the zoom505 sucking ass....I gotta say though, I was in a local band when that thing came out..I bought it looking for a multi-effect solution for playing live...I never recorded in the studio with it, but I used it live all the time; It always sounded great. I used it during practice too, running it through a peavy Studio Pro 112 from that time...again, that thing could always tear the concrete off the walls of that basement. I've got a Zoom707 sitting here in the studio actually...I haven't used it in a long time...but it still holds its own IMO. Just a thought. 
Peace
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Jason Brian Merrill Jason Brian Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=87372
- KVRAF
- 2694 posts since 11 Nov, 2005 from http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Massena,+NY --(on the Canadian border)
that was me about the zoom 505. I gave it away to someone it sucked so badly.
heres an unprocessed wav for you all to play with:
http://stashbox.org/uploads/1152755776/unprocessed.wav
oops, this is the file with freeamp on it. Ill go take it off and reupload the real dry one.
please post clips/presets if you want to show something
this is the same exact config as the sample i posted before but recorded dry. I didnt alter the wav in any way.
heres an unprocessed wav for you all to play with:
http://stashbox.org/uploads/1152755776/unprocessed.wav
oops, this is the file with freeamp on it. Ill go take it off and reupload the real dry one.
please post clips/presets if you want to show something
this is the same exact config as the sample i posted before but recorded dry. I didnt alter the wav in any way.
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Jason Brian Merrill Jason Brian Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=87372
- KVRAF
- 2694 posts since 11 Nov, 2005 from http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Massena,+NY --(on the Canadian border)
CRAP dont download that.
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TotcProductions TotcProductions https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6202
- KVRAF
- 5152 posts since 5 Mar, 2003 from Franklin, NH
Aaaaah, Finally.Jason Brian Merrill wrote:that was me about the zoom 505. I gave it away to someone it sucked so badly.
heres an unprocessed wav for you all to play with:
http://stashbox.org/uploads/1152755776/unprocessed.wav
please post clips/presets if you want to show something
this is the same exact config as the sample i posted before but recorded dry. I didnt alter the wav in any way.
Peace
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TotcProductions TotcProductions https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6202
- KVRAF
- 5152 posts since 5 Mar, 2003 from Franklin, NH
Whoops! Why! Already did! You're too late! AAAH!Jason Brian Merrill wrote:CRAP dont download that.
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Jason Brian Merrill Jason Brian Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=87372
- KVRAF
- 2694 posts since 11 Nov, 2005 from http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Massena,+NY --(on the Canadian border)
the real one is uploading now.
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TotcProductions TotcProductions https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6202
- KVRAF
- 5152 posts since 5 Mar, 2003 from Franklin, NH
Aaah, ok. Make sure it's still up tomorrow, I'll grab it then.Jason Brian Merrill wrote:the real one is uploading now.
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Jason Brian Merrill Jason Brian Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=87372
- KVRAF
- 2694 posts since 11 Nov, 2005 from http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Massena,+NY --(on the Canadian border)
yup it will be 
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