Sonic Reality

mlyon · Post by **mlyon** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:39 pm

Squids, in another thread, wrote:Oh you guys mean the new Sonic Reality RexPaks? 6 new libraries being released next week (besides RAW) that are designed to be RMX compatible as well as a great source of Rex2 files for Reason, Kontakt and any Rex2 compatible software? They are gonna be COOL! Official announcement is either gonna be tomorrow or Monday. A little Squids leak since I said I'd let you know soon.

Just in case anyone hasn't dropped by eSoundz lately to check things out, the first six RexPaks are now out. I just ordered the Vintage Rock one with all of the ePointz I'd accumulated (gotta clear out the bucket...

).

I thought I'd just let folks know as it sounds like Squids is a bit busy to do the official post.

Cheers,
Mark

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:30 pm

mlyon wrote:
Squids, in another thread, wrote:Oh you guys mean the new Sonic Reality RexPaks? 6 new libraries being released next week (besides RAW) that are designed to be RMX compatible as well as a great source of Rex2 files for Reason, Kontakt and any Rex2 compatible software? They are gonna be COOL! Official announcement is either gonna be tomorrow or Monday. A little Squids leak since I said I'd let you know soon.
Just in case anyone hasn't dropped by eSoundz lately to check things out, the first six RexPaks are now out. I just ordered the Vintage Rock one with all of the ePointz I'd accumulated (gotta clear out the bucket... ).

I thought I'd just let folks know as it sounds like Squids is a bit busy to do the official post.

Cheers,
Mark

Did we ever get to the bottom of whether the REX PAKS were completely new or edited from REX RAW and/or ProFiles?

-B

beergeek · Post by **beergeek** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:14 pm

Squids wrote:They are STEREO and a lot of the material is either custom made for the series (so completely new) or taken from upcoming multitrack Studio ProFile titles (so also new). There are some taken from Qup Arts titles (like the upcoming Latin Groove titles and Steve Gadd etc.) that were never offered as Rex files before. But, either way for the most part we're talking new and different material. RAW borrows a little bit from each of these as well as over 20 upcoming titles as well (partially a "best of" in a way... like if you enjoyed the "Dirty South" folder of 60 Rex files in RAW then you'll probably like the 500 Rex files of loops on the Dirty South Rex Pak).

So kinda a mixture...I read the above that RAW is much more diverse collection (and the full version is multi-format.) Studio ProFiles are way bigger, multi-format and some are multi-track (and all more expensive.)

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:20 am

Right, well if you are talking about the Studio ProFiles Special Edition then yes the RexPaks are different. If you are talking about Studio ProFile titles... well those are ALL new because they're not even out yet!

But, we're probably not going to do Stereo-Only versions of the Studio ProFiles. Just the deluxe Multitrack (with stereo and all in multiple formats) for each title and yes those will be several times the price. However, a lot of the grooves from Studio ProFiles are going to be in these RexPaks and at an incredible price. Vintage Rock has most of the British Rock title plus a bunch of other rock loops that won't be released in anything else. Same thing with Motown and Vintage Soul. Those have material from the upcoming "Rhythm & Soul" Studio ProFile (but also a bunch of material like vinyl grooves and bass lines that are not in that lib).

We will also offer upgrades from RexPaks to certain Studio ProFile titles when they are out.

Thanks for announcing it here for me! Yeah, I am recording in LA right now. Working on a few albums actually and also sampling. I just sampled a kit the other day with Nick D'Virgilio that sounds amazing. The brush kit was something we recorded on a record and I HAD to have that to play with too... and that means you as well! I love sampling when you're working on music because then you hear it in context.

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:59 pm

Squids wrote: Thanks for announcing it here for me! Yeah, I am recording in LA right now. Working on a few albums actually and also sampling. I just sampled a kit the other day with Nick D'Virgilio that sounds amazing. The brush kit was something we recorded on a record and I HAD to have that to play with too... and that means you as well! I love sampling when you're working on music because then you hear it in context.

For those of us that wish we had YOUR job, can you give us any details on the album sessions? Or are you sworn to secrecy?

Cheers
-B

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:40 am

BERFAB wrote:
Squids wrote: Thanks for announcing it here for me! Yeah, I am recording in LA right now. Working on a few albums actually and also sampling. I just sampled a kit the other day with Nick D'Virgilio that sounds amazing. The brush kit was something we recorded on a record and I HAD to have that to play with too... and that means you as well! I love sampling when you're working on music because then you hear it in context.
For those of us that wish we had YOUR job, can you give us any details on the album sessions? Or are you sworn to secrecy?

Cheers
-B

Some stuff is actually secret because it's a high profile person and they asked me specifically not to say anything just yet. However, when I am finally able to tell you I think you will think it is as cool as I do. There will be samples from it involved that you can buy as well... but already I am saying too much.

As far as Nick D'Virgilio in the studio, that was for this Irish singer's album I am producing. The one thing about having a live drummer in the studio that is better than loops is the drummer's ideas and how he reacts to the song... that is IF you like what the drummer thinks!!! Ironically there are many drummers who can ruin a song if they play too many fills, lose the groove, or have bad feel or timing or simply just don't take your direction too well and aren't cooperative. That was one of the reasons years ago I started sampling drums myself so I could play my drum ideas from the keys. But, now that I have a massive archive of sampled drums and a zillion loops to use the irony is that if I have someone like Nick available I don't hesitate a second to hire him!

It all depends on the song, the artist(s) you're working with, your budget, your mood, your approach. This singer is like a cross between Neil Finn and Rob Thomas and the music has a live sound to it. So while I can pull out Miroslav (and have) I may actually use a real cellist (possibly Mark Hinebrook, one of SR's programmers but I used to play with this guy named Cameron Stone who played with Poe and Herbie Hancock... he was amazing and used to run his cello through guitar pedals and sounded like Hendrix on that thing!). While I could have even used Nick's own Studio ProFile title I thought we'd record it live with him since the singer was over here in LA from Ireland for this. The results came out really good! We cut 7 tunes in 2 days.

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:49 am

http://www.esoundz.com/libraries.php?pn ... hf=rexPaks

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:10 am

Squids wrote:http://www.esoundz.com/libraries.php?pn ... hf=rexPaks

Nice.

-B

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:14 am

Squids-
BTW, I saw your 1/2 page add in Recording (I think-I get a lot of these mags and it's hard to keep 'em straight) with the "Outrageous Flexibility" promo for RAW and the related products. Very impressive. I hope you do well with it.

Cheers
-B

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:02 pm

BERFAB wrote:Squids-
BTW, I saw your 1/2 page add in Recording (I think-I get a lot of these mags and it's hard to keep 'em straight) with the "Outrageous Flexibility" promo for RAW and the related products. Very impressive. I hope you do well with it.

Cheers
-B

Thanks. Raw the full version will be released some time next week it looks like. 4 DVDs of loops in 3 formats for a few hundred bucks is not bad! Our hope is that everyone gets it!

(of course)

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:50 am

Let's talk about the Rex Paks. It's not often that we release 6 new products within a week of announcing them! lol Ok so here's the deal, as far as demos go the good ones at the moment are the Drum n Bass and the Hip Hop Dirty South. The other acoustic drum titles just have REAL quick temporary audio demos that don't do it justice in my opinion. I mean you get a quick taste but it's not really what I had in mind. Actually we can use some help with demo making in general so if you are really good then feel free to email us about that and explain what styles you're good at and point to some examples. Anyway, I am working on some demos and so are a few others which I hope to have up by the end of the week so you can REALLY hear how awesome they are. But, I want to talk about them a bit as well.

Okay, I will bring up some stories about each of the titles but let me talk about one at a time so you can get the scoop. So, the "Vintage Rock" title. http://www.esoundz.com/details/viewDeta ... uctID=1407 What's this one all about? Let me say some of the things we don't say in the straight up official marketing speak... these are recreated Bonham and Ringo grooves!!!! Haha. Seriously, there's tons of Zep and Beatles beats in there as well as Stones, Floyd, ACDC, Boston, Doors, Metallica and other Classic Rock grooves. It's pretty diverse and has a lot of variety of dry vs. roomy acoustic drum loops that you really have flexibility to process inside your DAW or sampler.

Now, remember also that if you use Stylus RMX that we've purposely designed the Rex Paks and RAW's REX disc to be specially compatible with RMX and it's drag and drop importing (not to mention that the unprocessed studio sound of these loops is IDEAL for using the built-in effects of Stylus to tailor it to your music). REX PAKS are also great for Reason of course. It's PRETTY good for Cubase although to be honest I have had touch and go experience with Rex files in Cubase. Don't know about you. I don't use FL Studio personally but I think these collections might be great if that's what you use.

Oh, also some good news about RAW and the Special Edition SP but I will post that separately.

mlyon · Post by **mlyon** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:19 pm

I received my Vintage Rock Rex Pak yesterday, actually, but I still haven't had a chance to even crack it open!! I hate when that happens. As always, Dave, you make it sound great, so I'm definitely looking forward to checking it out when my time once again becomes my own.

Cheers,
Mark

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:29 pm

Yeah, I'd love to hear some feedback about them. I am making some demos for this and also the Motown, Vintage Soul and Nashville Pop right now. I am doing it in Reason. They're just so easy to work with. So we'll be posting some better sounding demos for those real soon.

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:37 pm

Okay, some NEW mp3 demos for the Rex Paks are now up on http://www.esoundz.com/libraries.php?pn ... hf=rexPaks

They show off the libraries quite a bit more than the previous ones that were done quickly just to have something there. These have more variety of percussion like the foot stomps, snaps, claps and other authentic Motown vibe stuff and for titles like Nashville Pop you get to hear the grooves in context of some acoustic guitar strumming (not on the lib though). Same thing for the Vintage Rock although I am still not totally satisfied with the demos for that title yet because it doesn't QUITE show just how Zeppelin/Floyd/Beatles/Stones that library REALLY is. You can hear it in there but it was against a lot of misc guitar and bass loops (some from RAW and some outtakes lying around for future downloadable sounds on esoundz). Still, you get a better idea with more demos to listen to! These Rex Paks are a lot of fun and great value.

Oh, another cool thing is that Line 6 is giving away a refill from us called "Sonic Reality Rexfill Styles Vol. 1" which has a little taste from each of these 6 Rex Pak titls (but in a refill so it can only be used with Reason whereas these Rex Paks can be used BOTH with Reason as well as any other Rex compatible program like Stylus RMX for instance). Anyway, please spread the word on these Rex Paks so that those who love Rex are aware of it, maybe pick up a few epointz referals perhaps!

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