fx utility
- KVRian
- 838 posts since 18 Feb, 2004 from Czech Republic
http://www.freewebs.com/wallyaudio/VST- ... onitor.htmpolitcat wrote:is there a plugin utility that tells you what CCs numbers an fx plugin accepts? thx!
Hmm, but you probably want something else ...
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1121 posts since 8 Oct, 2005
doesn't that just monitor what comes out? or how does it work to tell me what CCs the plugin accepts? example, what CC to use to control filter cutoff.Artvera wrote:http://www.freewebs.com/wallyaudio/VST- ... onitor.htm
- KVRian
- 838 posts since 18 Feb, 2004 from Czech Republic
If plugin is able to receive CC to control to some parameters, so in most case you can to find this CC map (or Midi implementation) in some manual or in text file what is installed with plugin or the plugin have option of function Learn for assigning arbitrary Midi CC from any external Midi controller. If you have plugin without some information about automation of parameters, I am not sure if your plugin is able to receive some CC messages for control of parameters.
Probably the plugin utilita what you need, is not existent
Probably the plugin utilita what you need, is not existent
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- KVRAF
- 3948 posts since 8 Sep, 2003 from germany
It's not possible to do this in a 100% working form, as from a software engineering point of view a plugin is like a black box, where anything can happen inside, without you noticing at the outside (especially regarding midi).
Still I was thinking about a way how you could vaguely get some more informations, but that would be
a) in a sort of brute-force way and
b) no 100% reliable result is to be expected .
It would work like this (in a kind of special host application):
- get all parameters/indexes from plugin that are exposed to the host
- store their current values
- send all CCs one after the other to the plugin and check if one of the parameter values changed and make a note
- generate a list of what has changed, showing possible relations between parameters and CC
Maybe someone's up to give it a try ? But as said, the plugins are black boxes, so anything (or nothing) could be the result.
In the end, go with the most reasonable advice, ask the according plugin developer for the CC configuration, which should be a simple task and maybe is already in some form or another available already (manual, midi-mapping etc.).
Still I was thinking about a way how you could vaguely get some more informations, but that would be
a) in a sort of brute-force way and
b) no 100% reliable result is to be expected .
It would work like this (in a kind of special host application):
- get all parameters/indexes from plugin that are exposed to the host
- store their current values
- send all CCs one after the other to the plugin and check if one of the parameter values changed and make a note
- generate a list of what has changed, showing possible relations between parameters and CC
Maybe someone's up to give it a try ? But as said, the plugins are black boxes, so anything (or nothing) could be the result.
In the end, go with the most reasonable advice, ask the according plugin developer for the CC configuration, which should be a simple task and maybe is already in some form or another available already (manual, midi-mapping etc.).
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- KVRAF
- 7886 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
The 'utility' is called the manual. You'll need to read it. Many plugins won't accept MIDI CC to modify parameters, BTW. Look for plugins with MIDI Learn features though, as that will do what you're looking for. But alas, if your plugin you want to use MIDI CC with doesn't work with MIDI CC, you're out of luck.politcat wrote:is there a plugin utility that tells you what CCs numbers an fx plugin accepts? thx!
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- KVRian
- 1263 posts since 15 Jun, 2004 from hamburg
if you try to use a midi controller to change fx settings, you should get energyXT.. one of its countless cool features is that it lets you wrap any vst plugin and maps CCs to any vst param, even with midi-learn. that way you can midi-lize any fx. 
energyXT -> http://www.xt-hq.com
energyXT -> http://www.xt-hq.com



