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Sammas · Post by **Sammas** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:00 am

hifiboom wrote:
so lets get back to topic ( no more my audiointerface sounds better than yours discussions)

As opposed to "my stuff sounds better than your stuff even though I've never heard anything"? No wait, it was "That is one of the best A/D converters out there even though i've never heard anything". Using your own ears seems to be some kind of outrageous exercise in this place...

Back on topic you say? How about some shorter reverb examples?

You must be having trouble downloading the altiverb examples that I posted. I've uploaded them to a different location. Same deal, first half dry, second half wet. Kmonkey posted the location of the dry sound in his first post.

Just hit the link and press the download button, they aren't even 700kb.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 6F53C2E2C5

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 1D08CC85CC

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 777EF3E858

This is the dry file:

http://www.rusec.hr/public_dir/v-verb/B ... al_dry.mp3

Sammas · Post by **Sammas** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:02 am

Kingston wrote:Sammas,

completely off topic, but are you the same sammas from the prodigy pro forum? oh and hi if you are, I frequent that place, too.

Hows the one bottler going?

RoyNoahJones · Post by **RoyNoahJones** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:09 am

I hope that everytime someone buys something cool, we won't get a ton of topics, with 20 pages. it might even give ideas to create new jobs to promote new products, sit & spam as job description

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:18 am

Sammas wrote:
Kingston wrote:Sammas,

completely off topic, but are you the same sammas from the prodigy pro forum? oh and hi if you are, I frequent that place, too.

Hows the one bottler going?

two bottler, sounding heavenly and fully utilised, and just what the doctor ordered to this studio. I'm currently shopping for a new project.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:20 am

RoyNoahJones wrote:I hope that everytime someone buys something cool, we won't get a ton of topics, with 20 pages. it might even give ideas to create new jobs to promote new products, sit & spam as job description

I hope you realise there already are forum marketing companies like this. Not exactly a good thing is it, knowing how much we all love tele marketing spammer calls.

"Sit & Spam"... sounds like a great name for a company.

JeffSanders · Post by **JeffSanders** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:43 am

Sammas wrote: As opposed to "my stuff sounds better than your stuff even though I've never heard anything"? No wait, it was "That is one of the best A/D converters out there even though i've never heard anything". Using your own ears seems to be some kind of outrageous exercise in this place...

I do know with my own ears the E-mu shits all over the M-Audio 2496. And a good preamp, mics, room treatment and decent monitors and proper mic placement together make an even bigger difference. And using good fx makes a huge difference too. Mmmm..let's not forget good music and performances... So on to more sound examples? This unit is sounding nice.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:27 am

RoyNoahJones wrote:I hope that everytime someone buys something cool, we won't get a ton of topics, with 20 pages. it might even give ideas to create new jobs to promote new products, sit & spam as job description

I think it depends on intrests...

If the people would not be interested in a reverb like the v-verb my old thread would not have grown up so fast.

forums are for sharing opinions!
If you don't like it just don't look into the thread or just don't use a forum like this.

real world experience with a tool is just the best one, better than a professional review, which is in most cases "promoting a product"

Just give the v-verb to a professional producer with a name and let him say: " I ve sold all my Lexicon and TC higher end units" to a music magazine....

Then everybody rushes out and is going to buy this unit ... I swear...

lol

quite funny...

Sammas · Post by **Sammas** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:04 am

hifiboom wrote: If the people would not be interested in a reverb like the v-verb my old thread would not have grown up so fast.

ha... now that is funny! If people were interested in the V-Verb, it would probably be 20 pages talking about the V-verb... instead it was 20 pages talking about ridiculously stupid the thread was.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:12 am

Sammas wrote:
hifiboom wrote: If the people would not be interested in a reverb like the v-verb my old thread would not have grown up so fast.

ha... now that is funny! If people were interested in the V-Verb, it would probably be 20 pages talking about the V-verb... instead it was 20 pages talking about ridiculously stupid the thread was.

jeah its right, but there was nothing stupid with my thread only
some stupid guys that highjacked my thread and that was you and some other specialist that thought I had to prove something ...
you both are muted and I try to ignore you the much I can....

But sometimes I cannot.

Sammas · Post by **Sammas** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:05 pm

hifiboom wrote:
Sammas wrote:
hifiboom wrote: If the people would not be interested in a reverb like the v-verb my old thread would not have grown up so fast.

ha... now that is funny! If people were interested in the V-Verb, it would probably be 20 pages talking about the V-verb... instead it was 20 pages talking about ridiculously stupid the thread was.
jeah its right, but there was nothing stupid with my thread only
some stupid guys that highjacked my thread and that was you and some other specialist that thought I had to prove something ...
you both are muted and I try to ignore you the much I can....

But sometimes I cannot.

Hurry up and post some shorter reverb examples you clown.

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:05 pm

Man this place gone crazy

I am sorry that i started this thread at first point.

It does have few light points here and there but it turned to guys who shit about expensive and cheap converters, two of them are soon to start another flame war and i am feelin like a spammer

And all i was want is to have some quality time with other kvrers and maybe some tips and tricks. I will delete files in a day or two when i get home

And most ironic thing is that we all shit here as we know this and we know that (including me of course) and most of us does not have ANY own reference music to prove claims. Whatever it is, i do believe that music is not good because of good reverbs or good converters. Those are fictions and we are make it true. Good music comes from magic behind artist. From melody. Even from click at the right time and place. You make it true. Note some shit-good converters or fancy reverb. And if you are good you will make good music and good music will sound good even on shitiest converters around.

Of course there will always be "but wait". We can accept this and move to next step or we can looping in this magical circle of nonsense.And you know that farmer Joe wont argue (if your music is good) when he will listen your song in some shit mp3 player with so bad sound quality. Why?

Oh then.....Now is probably time to try to make some good music.

Best regards...(with hope to find better luck in next thread)

JeffSanders · Post by **JeffSanders** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:07 am

Ah....dude, just brush it off. Bfd. I for one would love to hear some more examples.

jplanet · Post by **jplanet** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:18 am

Sammas wrote:...If people were interested in the V-Verb, it would probably be 20 pages talking about the V-verb... instead it was 20 pages talking about ridiculously stupid the thread was...

Stick around for a while, Sammas, you will find that any topic with more than 20% of the posts being on topic is a rarity! The bar is lowered even more for threads seeking to show that there are ways of achieving pro-quality results on a tight budget. It makes people who have invested too much money on gear very antsy!

Sammas · Post by **Sammas** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:34 am

jplanet wrote:
Sammas wrote:...If people were interested in the V-Verb, it would probably be 20 pages talking about the V-verb... instead it was 20 pages talking about ridiculously stupid the thread was...
Stick around for a while, Sammas, you will find that any topic with more than 20% of the posts being on topic is a rarity! The bar is lowered even more for threads seeking to show that there are ways of achieving pro-quality results on a tight budget. It makes people who have invested too much money on gear very antsy!

Antsy? I have plenty of money invested in gear but im not concerned in the slightest. I've used my ears and have come to my own conclusion about how things sound. Im sure someone will try and convince me otherwise, but it won't happen... The advantages of using your own ears and actually comparing things for yourself is that you know first hand what you like and what you don't.

On the flipside, this place seems to be swarming with naive, misled people who haven't used their own ears to judge anything. Instead they hear something they like and its a "killer" of something high end that they've never heard. Maybe its a subconcious thing to prevent those low end at heart people from forking out money for high end gear. It is a totally different realm of sound quality... but maybe you guys just aren't using your ears.

jplanet · Post by **jplanet** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:10 am

As you did not detect or respond to the humor in my post, I also think that you have missed some of the credible opinions given by others in this thread.

Have you found any low-cost gear that you feel competes with much higher priced stuff? What do you think of the Studio Projects mics, or FMR preamps, for example?

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