KVR Audio

vvanrij · Post by **vvanrij** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:02 am

I'd add some more high eq, little more reverb, and it should sound good in a mix

If its close to the virus demo, not really, but that doesn't have to necesserily be the synth, it could also be different patch programming, nice attempt!

-Victor

edit: also less resonance, to avoid the bloppy effect!

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:10 am

Hmmm. The synth sound reminds me of the MicroKorg.
My guess is Transcender 2.
What synth is it jacob?

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:53 am

I've just asked my friend to get me back that analog synth that I had toyed around with long ago, the Roland one. Hopefully I'll grab that within the next week or two and will post some samples of real analog ... even if it's crappy analog, it'll be REAL analog

lol

Also toying with z3ta, and must admit I'm in love. What a great synth

Fots

cleverr1 · Post by **cleverr1** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:24 pm

Hi,
I also think that the emulation .mp3 posted is Synth1. I played around and got pretty close with Synth1 and the Zero Vector demo.

That was a really useful exercise. Not only do I not need to buy a Virus, but Zero Vector now looks pretty expensive next to Synth1.

Thanks guys.

Roger

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:04 pm

I agree Synth 1 is a excellent synth compared to some commercial synths, and even compared to some hardware synths.

It is so easy to program and the bottom end sounds really barf without any artifacts, and it works fine for any genre from pop, hip hop, rnb to trance.

I also love Zero Vector for the bigger sounds you can get out of it + all the waveforms/filter options that is included.

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:09 pm

I must admit that with Synth1's price and CPU usage VS sound, I think it is by far the best VSTi I've tried for bread & Butter sounds.

It truly does sound amazing, I can play huge chords with all features enabled and I still barely hit 10% CPU usage. I actually would love to see the developers use their algorithms and develop an even more flexible synth with 4 oscs (or more), mod matrix, a lot more waveforms, a reverb effect and things like dual filters, multiple envelopes & lfos .etc

(dreams)
Fots

Boulotaur2024 · Post by **Boulotaur2024** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:50 pm

Yea I was thinking to myself last time : how the hell is it that Propellerheads guys still haven't contacted Synth1 creators yet ?

I mean they could greatly improve/refund their Substractor while maintaining their low-cpu usage "mark of fabric"

Oh, and evey Synth1 user should try Nolween 's soundbanks (especially Bank3) !

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:08 pm

Boulotaur2024 wrote:Yea I was thinking to myself last time : how the hell is it that Propellerheads guys still haven't contacted Synth1 creators yet ?

I mean they could greatly improve/refund their Substractor while maintaining their low-cpu usage "mark of fabric"

Oh, and evey Synth1 user should try Nolween 's soundbanks (especially Bank3) !

I agree

That girl can really create presets

martian · Post by **martian** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:11 pm

nuffink wrote: This is a perfect example of why kvr needs a bookie.

I respond with "You do realise that a virus is a softsynth" and while awaiting knot's reply I can get:-

1:2 Some half baked nonsense about D/A converters
13:8 A load of ill informed stuff about the power of DSP chips
7:2 A riff along the lines of "I know what I hear. I'm a Ferengi"

knot gets to vent a bit. I pick up my winnings.

Where's the downside?

life gets even better of you can ignore those posts, and face the fact that some people cant be educated. if they want to learn they dont need your help the info is everywhere.

like many who got into production around 6/7 years ago with the internet just taking off i was brought up on constant misinformed posts far worse than these, and obviously few discussions could be elaborated with audio demos. but if you have some common sense and desire to learn you will rise far above it.

that said, i appreciate your humorous responses, keep it up.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:29 pm

nuffink wrote:
knot0fvipers wrote:
nuffink wrote:
knot0fvipers wrote:soundpalace, for pure sound quality there is the korg collection, arturia, and Minimonsta. Thats it. all the other synths mentioned sound like shit if your talking "just" sound quality.
None of those though can touch a virus filter. Just save up and get a used virus b if you want something like the virus, there is no other choice.
Thats not to say that alot of the synths mentioned here are not amazing. Take absynth for example, the sound quality of the oscilators is terrible but when the whole thing comes togather absynth can make sounds a virus could not touch.
Buy a real virus, then look for softsynths that make other sounds to compliment the virus.
The truth is that these smaller software companies can't compete with a whole team of mad german DSP gurus. There is no sense for the softsynth companies to spend the time/money in refineing the algorithms to the point of a virus or good hardware korg synth, most people can't hear the difference anyway.
Another stamp collector. No tunes. No www. No clue. Same M.O. as all the other stamp collectors.

I'll bet he's got an apogee.
sorry your ears are not as refined. Really though I don't think this is a good thing. Its highly distracting from actually making music. I hardly have no clue though. I started with synths programming csound in 1995, started with generator in 1999, have owned a kurzweil k2000, virus b, q, korg oasys and nord modular. I don't own any hardware right now because even though i can hear the extreme difference between albino and a virus, the ease of use of the albino/softsynths and the fact that no one who just listens to electronic music and isnt into synths would even care.

This is a stupid topic, if you can't hear the difference between a good hardware synth vs softsynths sound quality wise its because you either don't know what you are listening for or you simply can't hear the difference period.You are in the same boat as basically 99.9999% of the people who will listen to your music so who cares. Same with analog vs digital synths, they sound totally different but no listening to the final product would care what made the sound, just if it sounds interesting or not.

I am not knocking softsynths, i'm just knocking the idiots who come on boards like this and tell the people who can hear the difference that they can't.
This is a perfect example of why kvr needs a bookie.

I respond with "You do realise that a virus is a softsynth" and while awaiting knot's reply I can get:-

1:2 Some half baked nonsense about D/A converters
13:8 A load of ill informed stuff about the power of DSP chips
7:2 A riff along the lines of "I know what I hear. I'm a Ferengi"

knot gets to vent a bit. I pick up my winnings.

Where's the downside?

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:32 pm

oblagon wrote:
snooky wrote:
oblagon wrote:
george wrote:
I will repeat this again: Clavia didn't even bother to respond to DiscoDSP email about the legality of their plugin.
As a matter of fact we have received several mails from Clavia. Of course I'm not going to disclose what happened.
In one of your posts you stated something different. That was a while ago though. Sorry about being presumptuous. Discovery is a fine synth in its own right.
why this hate for fine software that DO sound like it's counterpart?!

Are you an elitist WANKER!?!?!?!?
WTF are you talking about ?? I sold all my gear to use vst plugs. I used both hard and software. You're a clueless clown that knows next to nothing.

or, do I know nothing to next?

that's the question.

clown.

jacobh · Post by **jacobh** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:38 pm

jacobh wrote:
soundpalace wrote:
crimsontider wrote:I am posting a snip demonstrating a simple arp from a virus. Can anyone here recreate this sound with a VSTI and post the results? I've been unsuccessful to date. I have come the closest with Zero Vector but still a little weak.

I just picked this particular sound because it's nice and punchy and shows a little about the quality of the filters.

Good luck and remember to post those results!:shock:

ftp://godgiventalentonline.com/public_html/music/
Correction to this link...

http://www.godgiventalentonline.com/music/

just about to listen
Fots
Here is an aproximation of the sound using another synth...

http://mindtrick.com/music/Virus_Arp1.mp3

Can anyone guess what synth it is? How do you like the sound?

Thanks,
Jacob

Good guesses guys! And yes, I think it could use a little better EQing.

YUGA was closesest in naming the synth. It's actually a Combinator patch in Reason, who's sound source is entirely subtractors with a miriad of effects.

To me, the main difference is the filters, and frequency response of the oscilators. I think it could pass for the same synth in a mix though. Don't under estimate the power of Reason and the Combinator.

Vonbrucken · Post by **Vonbrucken** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:46 pm

Sytrus can do everything a virus can do and beyond http://www.sytrus.com/ and be also sure to check for Adventus http://www.softplug.com/index.html

vvanrij · Post by **vvanrij** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:08 pm

" crimsontider wrote:
I am posting a snip demonstrating a simple arp from a virus. Can anyone here recreate this sound with a VSTI and post the results? I've been unsuccessful to date. I have come the closest with Zero Vector but still a little weak....."

Euhm.. as I was going to the site of Adventus (http://www.softplug.com/adventus.html) I listened to the online demo's, and then I passed the demo called 'vengeance'. Thats the exact arp? Sounds a bit different but could be the online quality!

-Victor

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:38 pm

Here is an aproximation of the sound using another synth...

can you please post the score?

VSTis as good as hardware? Similar to Access Virus Quality?