Right amount of reverb? (vote!)

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Which song has the preferrable amount of reverb?

Poll ended at Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:43 pm

I like the amount of reverb better in the first song!
6
32%
I like the amount of reverb better in the second song!
13
68%
 
Total votes: 19

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Last edited by FeedCroc on Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Interesting poll. Two good mixes. The second one is a little bit too dry. May be the truth is somewhere in the middle ;)
vote for the first one.

Good job at all!

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I think this also depends on the track and music ....

For fast Rap sounds dry may be better....with some effects on some instruments....

for slow balad you may throw in more reverb on the vocal to get a special space....

for the first track the reverb just destroys the groove a little bit... I would use shorter rooms or go more dry...
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Both are good. They are two different songs and I think the amount of reverb is fine on both; I would probably use a shorter reverb on the drums in the first song though (gated). BTW the mixes sound very well balanced except for the dominating hi-hat in the right channel of the first song.

Torben

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Last edited by FeedCroc on Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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FeedCroc wrote:
Torben wrote:Both are good. They are two different songs and I think the amount of reverb is fine on both; I would probably use a shorter reverb on the drums in the first song though (gated). BTW the mixes sound very well balanced except for the dominating hi-hat in the right channel of the first song.

Torben
I can confess now that i made mix nr 1. I don't know if this will tilt the vote, but it doesn't matter. Howdyall feel about the vocals in the first song? It's a young female singer we "found", actually hand-picked to sing this song. Do you like her voice? I'm NOT gonna make another poll about it =P


CROC
I have to say that this song grows on me; very nice and she sings great. This song kind of remind me of some of the songs made by Mike Oldfield and song by Mackie Riley. When will the album be out, I want it :P (but do something to that hi-hat)

Torben

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FeedCroc wrote:
Torben wrote:Both are good. They are two different songs and I think the amount of reverb is fine on both; I would probably use a shorter reverb on the drums in the first song though (gated). BTW the mixes sound very well balanced except for the dominating hi-hat in the right channel of the first song.

Torben
I can confess now that i made mix nr 1. I don't know if this will tilt the vote, but it doesn't matter. Howdyall feel about the vocals in the first song? It's a young female singer we "found", actually hand-picked to sing this song. Do you like her voice? I'm NOT gonna make another poll about it =P


CROC
Very nice. This made me think about Maggie Reilly in some of her Mike Oldfield songs... but perhaps the huge reverb had something to do with that, too! :wink:
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FeedCroc wrote:I can confess now that i made mix nr 1. I don't know if this will tilt the vote, but it doesn't matter. Howdyall feel about the vocals in the first song? It's a young female singer we "found", actually hand-picked to sing this song. Do you like her voice? I'm NOT gonna make another poll about it =P

CROC
I say, keep that girl! She has a nice voice.

BTW, do you have some pics or a website?
-- Regards MrM --

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Torben wrote:
FeedCroc wrote:
Torben wrote:Both are good. They are two different songs and I think the amount of reverb is fine on both; I would probably use a shorter reverb on the drums in the first song though (gated). BTW the mixes sound very well balanced except for the dominating hi-hat in the right channel of the first song.

Torben
I can confess now that i made mix nr 1. I don't know if this will tilt the vote, but it doesn't matter. Howdyall feel about the vocals in the first song? It's a young female singer we "found", actually hand-picked to sing this song. Do you like her voice? I'm NOT gonna make another poll about it =P


CROC



I have to say that this song grows on me; very nice and she sings great. This song kind of remind me of some of the songs made by Mike Oldfield and song by Mackie Riley. When will the album be out, I want it :P (but do something to that hi-hat)

Torben
OK Torben, that's just weird... we must have written the exact same thing at exactly the same time!

Does that mean I get all your future plugs for free?? :wink:
pethu.se/music-releases
Not a part of the loudness war!

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Last edited by FeedCroc on Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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The vocals sit a lot better in track 2, I think. The thing with track 1 is that there's all these really washed out parts, huge reverbs, and the vocal comes in sounding a bit like karaoke. I don't know how you mixed it, but I'd start with a short delay, a longer delay, a balanced room reverb (that I'd use on the drums and that el gtr especially too), and a special hall or plate for the vocal.

The genre isn't one I've ever worked in, so I'm not sure about the idiom really. My inclination would be to try and get the vocal in the same weird space as at least some of the instruments, but you may not want that.
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I disagree about the vocals on the second one. The lead vocal on the refrain is way too hot. You need to bring it back into context with the rest of the mix. The verses seem fine.

The guitars are walking on the vocal on the first track. I know you like the playing, but they need pulled back some.

Different songs require different amounts and textures of reverb. The reverb on these mixes seems fine to me. It's other things that are messing them up.

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pethu wrote:
Torben wrote:
FeedCroc wrote:
Torben wrote:Both are good. They are two different songs and I think the amount of reverb is fine on both; I would probably use a shorter reverb on the drums in the first song though (gated). BTW the mixes sound very well balanced except for the dominating hi-hat in the right channel of the first song.

Torben
I can confess now that i made mix nr 1. I don't know if this will tilt the vote, but it doesn't matter. Howdyall feel about the vocals in the first song? It's a young female singer we "found", actually hand-picked to sing this song. Do you like her voice? I'm NOT gonna make another poll about it =P


CROC



I have to say that this song grows on me; very nice and she sings great. This song kind of remind me of some of the songs made by Mike Oldfield and song by Mackie Riley. When will the album be out, I want it :P (but do something to that hi-hat)

Torben
OK Torben, that's just weird... we must have written the exact same thing at exactly the same time!

Does that mean I get all your future plugs for free?? :wink:

LOL :hihi:

I love the voice too ... I would really love to make an electronic remix with it for fun...

By the way what reverb do you use on the track?

some synth pads could also round that track
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FeedCroc wrote:
Torben wrote:Both are good. They are two different songs and I think the amount of reverb is fine on both; I would probably use a shorter reverb on the drums in the first song though (gated). BTW the mixes sound very well balanced except for the dominating hi-hat in the right channel of the first song.

Torben
I can confess now that i made mix nr 1. I don't know if this will tilt the vote, but it doesn't matter. Howdyall feel about the vocals in the first song? It's a young female singer we "found", actually hand-picked to sing this song. Do you like her voice? I'm NOT gonna make another poll about it =P


CROC

I really like the song and the mix. Actualy what are the mics/pres, the samples and the software?

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in short, If you allow me...

On the 1st track :

More than an excessive ** amount of reverb i would regret it unappropriation :

i would have liked to hear more reverberated the monophonic line of the electric guitar and the sibilants of the lead vocal line, instead of low-mid frequencies of percussions and bass as much as i can judge

On the 2nd track

This one, with a very simple groove that the voice style strictly follows ,would have appreciate the addition of some short, tempo related gate reverb or reverse reverb in my taste.

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But honestly, i can't give a definite vote as suggested on the beginning of this thread

Hope you'll forgive me !!!!!!!!!

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**moderately excessive...you see !

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