VSTis as good as hardware? Similar to Access Virus Quality?

[The Chase]

Is there a reason no one talks about the Roland SH-201?

Because its a sad joke, perhaps? Sure looks it next to its competitors. 32 on-board presets, puh-leeeeese!

What do presets have to do with anything? I dont care if hardware has any presets.

[Vonbrucken]

As for adventus I honestly don't think its in the same league as the discoDSP but that's just my opinion.

i don't think so but that's my opinion , price don't make quality , but as it's been a long time that i haven't touch discovery demo i will test it again ..
but be sure to try adventus demo it is worth downloading..
anyway what i really consider a synth of the ultimate league is SYTRUS no doubt about that (and i recently bought toxic3 )
i can say that it is the ultra FM killer and beyond ! and that NI could put FM7 in the letter bin where it belongs !!!

[crimsontider]

Is there a reason no one talks about the Roland SH-201?

Because its a sad joke, perhaps? Sure looks it next to its competitors. 32 on-board presets, puh-leeeeese!

What do presets have to do with anything? I dont care if hardware has any presets.[/quot

Maybe 1 in 50 feel the way you do. A overwhelming majority want a load of presets.

[snooky]

Is there a reason no one talks about the Roland SH-201?

Because its a sad joke, perhaps? Sure looks it next to its competitors. 32 on-board presets, puh-leeeeese!

What do presets have to do with anything? I dont care if hardware has any presets.[/quot

Maybe 1 in 50 feel the way you do. A overwhelming majority want a load of presets.

then the remaining 49 ppl shouldn't be making musik...can't tweak a synt has simple as the SH201 and you'd better start knitting or shit.

[aquar]

i don't think so but that's my opinion , price don't make quality , but as it's been a long time that i haven't touch discovery demo i will test it again ..
but be sure to try adventus demo it is worth downloading..
anyway what i really consider a synth of the ultimate league is SYTRUS no doubt about that (and i recently bought toxic3 )
i can say that it is the ultra FM killer and beyond ! and that NI could put FM7 in the letter bin where it belongs !!!

Well I have tried adventus demo, I wouldn't dream of making a comparison based on what other ppl say or screenshots etc and I have to say I really wasn't overly impressed. I must admit I do like the layout/design of the synth but it didn't have the X-factor in the sonic department, well at least not for me.
Any hint of Synth edit involvement usually puts me right off a synth I know it shouldn't factor into the judgement but it niggles me. Not to say I don't respect certain synth edit stuff .

As for the Sytrus, I totally agree it certainly is in the premiere league.

[Vonbrucken]

oh i made some research and ok yeah adventus is made with synth edit but it doesn't hit the cpu

[crimsontider]

Is there a reason no one talks about the Roland SH-201?

Because its a sad joke, perhaps? Sure looks it next to its competitors. 32 on-board presets, puh-leeeeese!

What do presets have to do with anything? I dont care if hardware has any presets.[/quot

Maybe 1 in 50 feel the way you do. A overwhelming majority want a load of presets.

then the remaining 49 ppl shouldn't be making musik...can't tweak a synt has simple as the SH201 and you'd better start knitting or shit.

Only a complete ignoramus would feel that way

Let's take your gear away and give it to someone that designs his own synthesizers while we're at it.

[Vonbrucken]

[snooky]

Is there a reason no one talks about the Roland SH-201?

Because its a sad joke, perhaps? Sure looks it next to its competitors. 32 on-board presets, puh-leeeeese!

What do presets have to do with anything? I dont care if hardware has any presets.[/quot

Maybe 1 in 50 feel the way you do. A overwhelming majority want a load of presets.

then the remaining 49 ppl shouldn't be making musik...can't tweak a synt has simple as the SH201 and you'd better start knitting or shit.

Only a complete ignoramus would feel that way

Let's take your gear away and give it to someone that designs his own synthesizers while we're at it.

that argument holds not a drop of water!

A synth is created to encourage the user to design sounds, like a guitar is designed to be plucked or strummed, and a piano tinkered on.

If you don't know how to pluck or strum a guitar or how to play a piano, you don't!

and, relying on presets with an instrument as well designed for the job of 'synthesizing sounds' as a synth, and not even knowing how to make a filtersweep is borderline criminal.

the ignorance here from the likes of you crimsontider is really amazing.

[snooky]

sure, laugh it up, I bet your music sux hard like the rest of the kvr 'ignoramus' as crimson put it.

[aquar]

Just as a quick example on hand, here is an excellent recreation of Jean Michel Jarre's Equinoxe 5 (hard to believe the original song is almost 30 years old now ), all done on a single Access Virus B by Per Kristian Risvik:

www.tronam.com/music/PerKristian_VirusKB-Equinoxe5.mp3

I chose not to direct link his page, out of respect for his server. His site can be found at: http://www.perkristian.net

You can also listen to recreations of a variety of vintage synth sounds programmed on the Virus at: http://www.perkristian.net/Virus_KB_Audio.htm

-Tronam

Very close indeed. I bet even Jarre himself would have a hard time reproducing it so faithfully.
A wonderful re-creation, props to Kristian Risvik.
Yeah its hard to believe its almost 30 years old but true classics don't age.

Now where is my credit card I want a Virus, ah I remember some machine stole it from me

[Baas]

A synth is created to encourage the user to design sounds, like a guitar is designed to be plucked or strummed, and a piano tinkered on.

You really don't make any sence to me.

The truth is that a synthesizer is created to encourage the user to make MUSIC not sounds. Just like a guitar or piano as you mention yourself. Why do you think so many professional musicians have a professional sounddesigner standing behind them ?

I have no problem at all finding my way around a synthesizer and have had A LOT of hardware and software in the last 20 years, but still I love getting a VSTi with a trillion presets.

They are all inspiration to me (and to the other 48 out of 50 users I bet).

KennethA

[D-Fusion]

Listen to these sounds for V-Station
http://www.soundwizard.de/Sounds/www.ve ... undset.mp3

[Vonbrucken]

sure, laugh it up, I bet your music sux hard like the rest of the kvr 'ignoramus' as crimson put it.

i think perfecturine may help you if you must passs some drugs tests these days
and please stop smoke metamphetamine

[snooky]

A synth is created to encourage the user to design sounds, like a guitar is designed to be plucked or strummed, and a piano tinkered on.

You really don't make any sence to me.

The truth is that a synthesizer is created to encourage the user to make MUSIC not sounds. Just like a guitar or piano as you mention yourself. Why do you think so many professional musicians have a professional sounddesigner standing behind them ?

If you need an engineer to make good sounding records, then you're not trying hard enough - I produce all my stuff from beginning to end (with the exeption of getting a female vocalist since it's impossible for me to sound like a woman - yet.), and I look down on people who don't make all their work from beginning to end themselfs...everyone can learn, no?

Altho much of the music on kvr, for example, sux - it's made by people who do everything from scratch. That I respect.

the rest of you who always need producers, engineers or 'musicians' - go away, leave the music to those who have talent and knowlegde.