A tracker better than Renoise...?
- KVRAF
- 3338 posts since 1 Sep, 2002
Aodix 
Make Your Voice Heard!!
EUROPEAN VAPERS PROTEST 29th 2.00PM.It saved my life.
EUROPEAN VAPERS PROTEST 29th 2.00PM.It saved my life.
- KVRAF
- 3338 posts since 1 Sep, 2002
BTW i used Psycle for a long time but there is a problem if you want to use se plugs 
and i want to use my plugs.
Aodix IS VERY STABLE and i MEAN very STABLE
i doesn`t have a sampler but there are good free vsti ones
Aodix is just a step better than a normal tracker
Odo.
and i want to use my plugs.
Aodix IS VERY STABLE and i MEAN very STABLE
i doesn`t have a sampler but there are good free vsti ones
Aodix is just a step better than a normal tracker
Odo.
Make Your Voice Heard!!
EUROPEAN VAPERS PROTEST 29th 2.00PM.It saved my life.
EUROPEAN VAPERS PROTEST 29th 2.00PM.It saved my life.
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- KVRist
- 140 posts since 30 Oct, 2004 from London
From 2003 to 2004 i developed audioLabz music creation studio, i wanted it to be something between cubase & tracker -> easy way of making sequences and easy way of making arrangement (with using block). It was fully modular system with internally unlimited tracks.
Arranger:
http://audiolabz.com/alconn.jpg
Built-in sample editor:
http://audiolabz.com/alse.jpg
Pattern editor:
http://audiolabz.com/al/shot1.jpg
Project was dropped beacuse i had no time, and no money for living
Greetz
Arranger:
http://audiolabz.com/alconn.jpg
Built-in sample editor:
http://audiolabz.com/alse.jpg
Pattern editor:
http://audiolabz.com/al/shot1.jpg
Project was dropped beacuse i had no time, and no money for living
Greetz
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- Banned
- 316 posts since 3 Apr, 2006
I certainly hope that there is something better than Renoise, but I can't think of anything.
But what I hope even MORE, is that Renoise is updated with the improvements which I have suggested in previous threads, as that would bring it to a state of transcendental apotheosis.
It would also bring software several large steps closer to closing the gap with traditional methods, by putting additional functionality and power into the hands of skilled composers, who just happen to be computer users, and who happen to understand the consequences of software's efficiency.
Just like people (myself included) were initially resistant to using Word Processors as a primary means of documentation, there are people who insist on using only hardware for performance and recording. And there are people who insist (myself included for some styles) on using pencil & paper for composing sheet music (with good reason, as there are still a small number of minor and major drawbacks to software.)
But Word Processors have become ubiquitous for home/office use, as it is faster to type than to write! It will also be faster to compose, edit, transpose, etc. musical notation using software once a few remaining drawbacks are dealt with.
People have been talking about the hardware-less music studio for a long time, just as people have been talking about the paper-less office for a long time. But software still hasn't quite advanced to the level where it is a practical substitute to traditional methods (although progress has been made at a phenomenal rate.) So as of now it is sort of used alongside traditional hardware audio mixing, synthesis, and sampling.
Honestly, the gap is closing as far as fidelity, ease-of-use, efficiency, flexibility, etc. of software vs. hardware.
Inevitably, someone, somewhere will write a host sequencer app that will make use of professional-grade and extensive options for composition, performance, recording, mixing, and mastering. And when that happens, they will receive windfall profits!
As of this time, Renoise comes close... Closer than anything else I can think of! And with a few small improvements, it could probably make the fabled "ultimate democratization of music" a hard, tangible reality!
More info on this subject can be read in a handful of posts I've made here on KVR. I will post a response containing a list of links as soon as I can. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that I can convince the Renoise development team to implement my ideas in future updates.
The gap is closing...
P.S. I should probably add at this point:
I am certainly NOT suggesting that software will replace hardware for ALL applications. After all, we will still need "control surfaces" to control software paramaters, and we will still need mice and "qwerty" keyboards!
I am also NOT suggesting that acoustic, electric, electro-acoustic, or electro-mechanical instruments will be made obsolete.
However, there are already 303, 808, 909, and SID emulations out the wazoo, and a few of the good ones have the ability to trick 99% of people into thinking they're hearing hardware. So possibly analog and digital circuitry-based synthesis, sampling, and mixing will become obsolete at a certain point, replcaed with... *gasp* Receptor, a laptop, midi keyboard, and a midi control surface!
But what I hope even MORE, is that Renoise is updated with the improvements which I have suggested in previous threads, as that would bring it to a state of transcendental apotheosis.
It would also bring software several large steps closer to closing the gap with traditional methods, by putting additional functionality and power into the hands of skilled composers, who just happen to be computer users, and who happen to understand the consequences of software's efficiency.
Just like people (myself included) were initially resistant to using Word Processors as a primary means of documentation, there are people who insist on using only hardware for performance and recording. And there are people who insist (myself included for some styles) on using pencil & paper for composing sheet music (with good reason, as there are still a small number of minor and major drawbacks to software.)
But Word Processors have become ubiquitous for home/office use, as it is faster to type than to write! It will also be faster to compose, edit, transpose, etc. musical notation using software once a few remaining drawbacks are dealt with.
People have been talking about the hardware-less music studio for a long time, just as people have been talking about the paper-less office for a long time. But software still hasn't quite advanced to the level where it is a practical substitute to traditional methods (although progress has been made at a phenomenal rate.) So as of now it is sort of used alongside traditional hardware audio mixing, synthesis, and sampling.
Honestly, the gap is closing as far as fidelity, ease-of-use, efficiency, flexibility, etc. of software vs. hardware.
Inevitably, someone, somewhere will write a host sequencer app that will make use of professional-grade and extensive options for composition, performance, recording, mixing, and mastering. And when that happens, they will receive windfall profits!
As of this time, Renoise comes close... Closer than anything else I can think of! And with a few small improvements, it could probably make the fabled "ultimate democratization of music" a hard, tangible reality!
More info on this subject can be read in a handful of posts I've made here on KVR. I will post a response containing a list of links as soon as I can. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that I can convince the Renoise development team to implement my ideas in future updates.
The gap is closing...
P.S. I should probably add at this point:
I am certainly NOT suggesting that software will replace hardware for ALL applications. After all, we will still need "control surfaces" to control software paramaters, and we will still need mice and "qwerty" keyboards!
I am also NOT suggesting that acoustic, electric, electro-acoustic, or electro-mechanical instruments will be made obsolete.
However, there are already 303, 808, 909, and SID emulations out the wazoo, and a few of the good ones have the ability to trick 99% of people into thinking they're hearing hardware. So possibly analog and digital circuitry-based synthesis, sampling, and mixing will become obsolete at a certain point, replcaed with... *gasp* Receptor, a laptop, midi keyboard, and a midi control surface!
Last edited by djdorian on Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:16 pm, edited 8 times in total.
- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
The only better Tracker than Renoise is Renoise's next version / update coming soon
I posted hundreds of new ideas and suggestions in the Renoise forum and they all seem to be ignored most of the time, yet, still up to this date its the best tracker out there on PC.
Cowbells!
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- KVRAF
- 8519 posts since 7 Apr, 2003
