VSTis as good as hardware? Similar to Access Virus Quality?

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D-Fusion wrote:A Virus Can't sound like this either :P
that is why I think the computer shines, so many different sounds, the palette is immense.

but when some hardware box does something unique and does it well, it is a nice thinig too.

I do not need a virus myself, and will pursue my route using only the computer to make music, even if greater music making boxes are invented... but they will continue to be relevent for a while

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vvanrij wrote:
D-Fusion wrote:A Virus Can't sound like this either :P
http://www.4shared.com/file/3045437/6a1 ... sh-32.html
I love my SH32 :D, you could use some filter and effects :P Cause I think a virus can sound like that haha :D
:lol:
Was just teasing :hihi:
I love my SH-32 it has a excellent sound (I have built some cool guitar patches on it also).
This is only the SH-32 playing and nothing else ;)

Power Guitar
http://www.4shared.com/file/3045624/e98 ... c__1_.html

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vvanrij wrote:Well for instance my KS-Rack has the option for 'analog drift', which recreates that effect of slightly detuning. And using the unison gives a nice and rich effect. It just doesn't sound the same as a chorus :( And like you stated, is kind of the discussion of previous page, where we said, is it really possible to recreate the virus' options on a pc (hyperoscs, dualfilters, 96khz, effects and still 80voices). It certainly is not the case in Vaz Modular :( Especially not in multitimbral mode!
Note a few facts -

Virus is not 96khz its 44khz internally

It cant do 80 voices unless basic voices and no effects and low multitimbral are used.

We dont know for certain what the latency is (it might do well here) but 8ms or under is fine in the real world

Comparing voice count by using highend modular soft synths isnt really comparing like for like at all, or necessary.

The 1800 voice figure is probably marketing talk, the hypersaw is a big factor in that number. Has anyone got one to test its polyphony with the hypersaw and unison and sub features switched on, I doubt it can really do that number.

The Virus cannot run windows XP.

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A virus running on Linux with a Vaz Modular filter :P

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vvanrij wrote:A virus running on Linux with a Vaz Modular filter :P
:hihi:

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stop hyping the virus, it is a good synth but not worth a 43 page discussion

other great synthesizers like the audiorealism bassline pro or impOscar aren't discussed this intensively but were definitely worth it

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dr. orange wrote:stop hyping the virus, it is a good synth but not worth a 43 page discussion
Yeah but dont you know its the best synth ever until proven otherwise!

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dr. orange wrote:stop hyping the virus, it is a good synth but not worth a 43 page discussion
The Virus C looks just turn me on, wish my gf looked like that... :hihi:

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vvanrij wrote:The Virus C looks just turn me on, wish my gf looked like that... :hihi:
and I think she wishes to get as much attention as your synths do

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tony, when the pulsewidth is adjusted, you get a layer of 16 unison saws replacing the saw waveform. using both oscs, that will make 32 saws per voice.

if you are indeed getting 2% per voice (amd, huh?) then you should realize you get 50 voices maximum, and that would be 50*32 or 1600 saw waves. you should be able to get far more though, i've had xhip on a p4 3.2ghz machine managing 200+ voices at once.

to test more voices, you can use the full polyphonic/voice unison on the control page, or use multiple instances.

if you enable other features like the filter, obviously it will require more cpu power. the main cpu use in xhip is modulation routing, and the filter has the greatest amount of modulation, meaning it takes the most cpu.

why are you mentioning tables? using tables for this kind of stuff is rediculous. i think the virus generates naive saws at 16x or so oversample, then applies a polyphase decimation filter on the mixture of all oscillators. that means to calculate a single saw waveform, you need the frequency which is in a register generally, the phase buffers which generally can be accessed linearly, and one add.

one memory access, one add per saw.

after that (virus does several oscillators which can all have several waves, right?) the mixed oversampled oscillators are decimated all at once.

in xhip i use a shared impulse table for sinc impulses which are mixed with naive waves to get antialiased waveforms. its a specially optimized version of minblep. currently each wave requires one add, plus a compare for when the phase is reset. when the phase is reset, 12 samples are calculated to be inserted into the impulse table, which on average for a bunch of unison voices at usual frequency (less than 1000hz) is cheaper or equal to a decimation.

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If you could only make a good interface for that prog of yours... :shock:

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projectdan wrote: The Virus cannot run windows XP.

:) really, the last thing I need when making music.....


..you were joking right?

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waveriderarts wrote:
projectdan wrote: The Virus cannot run windows XP.

:) really, the last thing I need when making music.....


..you were joking right?
No seriously it cant run Windows XP!

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It really can't :| Omg, I'm gonna sell mine then!

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Roland SH-32 (Only the synth is played with no other fx).

Heavy Guitar.
http://www.4shared.com/file/3045624/e98 ... c__1_.html

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