In the end it always seems to boil down to whatever works best for the situation, as you both pointed out both izotope and t-racks has their strenghths and weaknesses, It's mainly a matter of wich one will you get the most use out of if you like but can't afford both.AndrewSimon wrote:This sums it up right on the money.ravasb wrote:I use T-racks when I am working more with real instruments like guitar tracks, and ozone when I am doing more electronic music.
I totaly agree.
Ozone vs. T-Racks
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- KVRian
- 1359 posts since 5 Mar, 2005
- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
I would go with Ozone as it has a larger, easier to use interface and is more detailed and scientific. T-Racks is just too small and fiddly for effective mastering work, plus with Ozone you get reverb and exciter. I like the sound of T-Racks, but it's just too gimmicky comapred to Ozone, IMHO.
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- KVRAF
- 1622 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Paris, France
Listen to the demo in the mp3 player on the left http://www.esoundz.com/details/viewDeta ... ductID=162, you can achieve good results with that, and I think T-RackS has more warmth and character compared to Ozone which is transparent and "don't live" if you know what I mean about the sound between digital and analog.
But you know, it's a matter of ears
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But you know, it's a matter of ears
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
In my admitedly biased opinion I think T-Racks sounds better and is easier to use. But this also the opinion of a lot of esoundz customers and pro musicians I've talked to and that is a large number of people. I use T-Racks myself all the time and I really think that because it is useful for both mastering AND for mixing (it is really 5 plug-ins in one, sep comp, eq etc. and actually I used it all the time for mixing) that it is something to have in your set up regardless of the comparison. Even if you already HAD Ozone I think T-Racks is worth getting.
But, download the demo and try it out for youself and see. Even just running your track through the main suite makes it sound good without even touching it yet. www.t-racks.com for the demo.
But, download the demo and try it out for youself and see. Even just running your track through the main suite makes it sound good without even touching it yet. www.t-racks.com for the demo.
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- KVRAF
- 10171 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
Now there is a special offer (pre-order) from IK-M for a complete effects-bundle:sounddesigner wrote:Yes but the vst version of t-racks cost more then 24 wich i think is stand-alone only. The t-racks plugin suit costs more then Ozone and would make Ozone the cheaper buy.But t-racks 24 costs the same as Ozone.mellotronaut wrote:t-racks is also vstsounddesigner wrote:Ozone can also be used as a vst within your host program, t-racks 24 i believe is stand-alone only.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146675
"It dreamed itself along"
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- KVRist
- 265 posts since 26 May, 2004 from NYC
Ozone has a hell of a lot more to offer. It also gets a lot of use here as a track plug as well. Not even in the same league IMHO. Owned T-Racks and sold it for next to nothing, which is what it is worth. 
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- KVRAF
- 1622 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Paris, France
Are T-RackS and Ozone the only two all-in-one mastering suites (I mean not a bundle of multiple plugins from a developer, but really a totally integrated plugin) ?
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- KVRAF
- 10171 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
Final Mix in Tracktion 2
"It dreamed itself along"
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- KVRAF
- 2049 posts since 18 Sep, 2003 from Seattle USA
I have both Ozone3 and T-Racks plugins.
I believe that the best of each of these suites is: Ozone3 maximizer (no GR - just smooth loudness beats T-Racks Dynamics) Tracks EQ (high shelf beats Ozone3 EQ).
I'm currently using each of these on the master buss in a remaster I'm doing at the project studio.
K-Slash T-Racks come in seperate plugs (comp, EQ, MB) but they were originally developed as T-Racks24 which was a standalone integrated suite. I think they just broke them apart and updated the sound slightly for the VST/DX versions.
I believe that the best of each of these suites is: Ozone3 maximizer (no GR - just smooth loudness beats T-Racks Dynamics) Tracks EQ (high shelf beats Ozone3 EQ).
I'm currently using each of these on the master buss in a remaster I'm doing at the project studio.
K-Slash T-Racks come in seperate plugs (comp, EQ, MB) but they were originally developed as T-Racks24 which was a standalone integrated suite. I think they just broke them apart and updated the sound slightly for the VST/DX versions.
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- KVRist
- 494 posts since 18 Jul, 2004
thx for the info...i'm sure they will include oversampling in t-racks 2 (like they did in amplitube 2, to get rid of aliasing and get better eq-curves). the eq in t-racks has the same problems with bells in the high-mids and highs like 100 other digital eqs at 44k.K-Slash wrote:Here are the replies I got :
IK Multimedia wrote:Hello Julien,
I am unsure of the exact details at this time, but I have heard from our development department that a new version of T-Racks will be released sometime in the coming months.iZotope wrote:Hi Julien,
We are definitely planning on an Ozone 4. The Ozone team is still looking for ideas and suggestions for things we can put into it, so if there's something specific you really want to see in Ozone 4 let me know, and I'll send them a feature request.
that would be also my comment to the ozone guys: your eq in analog mode has the same problems like t-racks eq described above.
and plz, whatever it takes as far as cpu, use it, this is 2006(double core and quad cores).
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- KVRAF
- 1622 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Paris, France
Quad Core ? By now it's planned for Q1 2007 with Intel and Q3 2007 for AMD. But yeah we are soon in the end of 2006 so let's optimize the products for multicoredefjamm wrote: and plz, whatever it takes as far as cpu, use it, this is 2006(double core and quad cores).
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- KVRAF
- 2401 posts since 29 Dec, 2002 from In the dark
My vote also goes to Ozone. Many here said that they like T-Racks because it has the distinctive sound. Now, in my opinion that is good reason to run away from it as fast as I can. I agree that I would maybe like something to color the sound when mixing and recording, but IMHO a mastering suite must NOT color the sound any further.
Other reasons why I like Ozone is the integrated use all-in-one plus the ease of use, while the detail for serious tweaking is just another one click away.
In the end it all boils down to what you like.
Other reasons why I like Ozone is the integrated use all-in-one plus the ease of use, while the detail for serious tweaking is just another one click away.
In the end it all boils down to what you like.
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- KVRist
- 83 posts since 5 Jul, 2005 from Melbourne
T-Racks is good. It only colours the final mix if you allow it to. The pre-sets are way too obnoxious, go easy on the settings and you should end up with a stella master.
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- KVRist
- 494 posts since 18 Jul, 2004
don't forget macsK-Slash wrote:Quad Core ? By now it's planned for Q1 2007 with Intel and Q3 2007 for AMD. But yeah we are soon in the end of 2006 so let's optimize the products for multicoredefjamm wrote: and plz, whatever it takes as far as cpu, use it, this is 2006(double core and quad cores)..
